Dear Howie one question because you talk about rice and massage,but you prefer a very big steak like i show you in one photo or one massage in karaoke?
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it will get better overtime. it takes a lot of time to fully burn in. please make sure you have not used shielded cable for this AC line, from pole to receptacle in your room. a shielded cable can be used for this purpose but it’s easy to achieve good results with an unshielded cable.
a dedicated AC line is the foundation of a good sounding audio setup. no component or filter can compensate the need for a dedicated line. you will still and absolutely need a filter but choose one like Synergistic Research, Audio Magic or any other “not transformer based” filters. stay away from transformer based AC filters. dedicated AC line should directly be terminated at the input of the filter. consider AC filter as a multiple receptacle which you will need anyway. try to eliminate unnecessary brakers on the line. use only one breaker and it should be a regular automatic one like Siemens. avoid hifi breakers that uses one time used fuses inside like AHP.
finally make sure you have an effective ground.
Well the rice cookers just got my heavenly sound back and now climbing to higher floor. God of sound just loves me.
The sound is getting better everyday burning the new electricity line. I now understand ddk more how he approaches power. The CC power cord is great for what it is. It is cheap shit, doesn't seem to do anything to sound, and just deliver power. So dont spend money on PC. What need to be managed and put little money into is how the power is delivered to the listening room. That's how he approaches power. Why in the world didn't he just say that. Here is one of PeterA's favorites track.
Thank you for the update! Yours is always my favorite system to hear clips from. Just one question if you don’t mind - if this level represented the final result of burning in/run in, would you be happy with the changes you made? Would love to hear your thoughts on how you evaluate your SOTA system. Kind regards
Jedi Master DDK makes his padawan work. No silver platter for you Tang.
Thank you for your kind words. The sound is not there yet. At the moment the tone is a tad glossy. Playing piano would show more easily. I had this exact experience when I introduced Kuro cable to my system a few years ago. The Kuro took a very long time to burn but once there it became super transparent with no glossy. Maybe one more month this power line will be fully burn in given the rate I am seeing. Here is What I got from routing power line direct from pole:
- Clean up highs. No spikes. More smooth.
- Sense of calmness. Music is just there even less attention drawing.
- More coherency somehow. When play big band with many brass instruments, the brass could take somewhat a leading role when they are not really supposed to. It is exciting to sound like that. But now they just play like team players. The whole band plays more in sync.
- Even more contrast and differentiation.
I am very happy with what I am hearing. The first day was a little scary though. No highs, dynamic gone, no depth, sound width shrinked, etc.
Thanks for sharing Tang. The video sounds good, and it is a nice piece of music. If only others would on rare occasion share such music in their videos, especially YouTube guys like Jay's Audio Lab. I like the natural sense of sibilance from that vdH Colibri. It contributes to the realism of the voices, IMO. You have a very quiet pressing of that recording. Congratulations.
I also enjoy your recordings. I prefer the visuals of your earlier ones where you show the needle drop and LP cover because I love glimpsing that American Sound table and your arm/cartridge before you walk over to sit behind your desk. Exercise is good for you.
I also like your synopsis of ddk's approach to power. That is basically it from what I gather: deliver good, clean power, and don't screw it up with the power cords and outlets. David did show me three different grounding scheme experiments at his house with switching ability between them to identify the best result. Good luck with the additional power break in.
What do you mean by a "tad glossy" tone? Is there a sheen/coloration over everything that obscures nuance or resolution, or is it a comment about tonal balance being slightly tipped?
Edit: Tang, I should add that I think it’s very cool that you and your local friends pass around videos to each other to illustrate various changes you make to your systems. If you have the interest, I would love to hear you share the reasons for doing this and what you get out of it.
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Dear Khun Tang,
CC is neither shit or cheap it's actually an extremely well built high quality power cord just doesn't come with "audioPile" coloration
!david
It wouldn't be correct if I don't give credit to ddk who gave me the "Wiring Recipe." This is a very practical instruction how to route electrical wire from pole to listening room. The instruction includes spec and type of wire, breaker, what to avoid, etc. The ingredient is all industrial at not expensive audiophile price. If anyone interested you can contact him directly. He suggests having an isolation transformer in the path but I don't use because that particular model is not sold in Thailand. I have been guided by ddk since the installation of AS2000. My sound has been following his simple effective approach since then.
Hi Peter,
The sibilance is not all natural. Since I received the Westrex cart I have been playing exploring switching cart from one arm to another. Fool around with cartridge set up a lot to learn and find out things. The sibilance you heard came from the fact I just mounted the vdh back to the arm without any careful adjustment on vta. Not difficult to minimize it. The glossy tone I talked about is difficult to put into words. It is like when you glass coated your car. It is not high frequency brightness. Burning in will rid all of it. Last week was quite a bit more than now. If I did not mention it very few people would take notice.
Video is good to remind us how the old sound was when we are in the process of doing something different in our system. If you have a target specific sonic aspect you focus on you can repeat playing to hear to confirm before drawing a conclusion. Imagine you were trying CMS footers. Those things will mess up your sound totally for weeks before get better. Within those agony weeks you ears would naturally become more familiar with the the much lower baseline to what you used to have. Then thing starts to get better. Is that "better" really better or is it just as good as what it used to be? Do you really think you could remember exactly how your base line used to be. For me and many of my audiophile friends, we use video to stimulate our recognition of the old sound..especially if we have a specific target sonic aspect in mind. Maybe we Thai have a hearing memory of a gold fish so we need all the help we can get.
I think we have a thread about using cable to cook a sound. I am one of those who like exploring cables and enjoy learning how they shape the sound. It is fun and interesting to have flexibility changing sound presentation...especially when it costs very little. Video 1 is all Kuro silvergold cables. Video 2 the speaker cables and phono cable were changed to inexpensive Japanese copper cables. I like the copper cable very much. Both Kuro and the Japanese cable offer advantages over one another. Cables are dependent on main components in the system. Often you cannot generalize them.
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Video 2
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I listen in admiration of what your are achieving. Such music.
Is that Haitink?
Another to try is Jascha Horenstein w/ LSO, HB73023.
Tang, another two nice videos. Thank you. It would be interesting to hear the sound with an inexpensive copper ICs too. I see that you are tuning the room acoustics by adjusting the blinds. DDK and I experimented with the same in my room. It can make an audible difference.
I don't know if you are looking for opinions, but it is hard not to comment when you post two videos with same music and only cable and room acoustic differences. I prefer the copper cable sound in video 2. It is more balanced and nuanced. First 45 seconds tells it all. The impact of the opening brass, and the resolution/nuance in the low frequencies following around 1:15. High frequencies are also more natural, less enhanced and more resolved. Video #2 is excellent and my clear preference.
I presume the Kuro cables also had the benefit of being settled while the copper cables were just inserted, but I can't be sure. I never really thought that makes any difference, but cable manufacturers all tell me to let the cables settle for days before evaluating. Regardless, the differences here are very stark.
Peter, my conclusions are entirely different from yours. I think through the Kuro cables the music is much more colorful. With the cheap copper cables the music sounds GREY in comparison. Even the low strings have much more color and differentiation with the Kuro cable, just compare the passage around the 2 minute mark.
Yes, the cymbal crash at the beginning sounds more natural with the copper cable, but that's just one thing. It may well be that the copper cable covers up problems (with recording and/or set-up) that the Kuro cable exposes. My impression has been for a while now that there are two types of audiophiles, those that try to solve problems, and those who try to mask them. Choosing the copper cable based on just the cymbal crash would probably play into the masking category, I suspect.
Those are just some quick thoughts, I won't pretend that I have spent time to perform an extensive analysis of the videos, so my quick assessment may be very flawed. Yet first impressions are strong; I do agree that the cable differences are very much audible through the videos.
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