NORTH AMERICAN PUBLIC DEBUT OF TECHDAS AIR FORCE ZERO AND WILSON AUDIO MASTER CHRONOSONIC/SUBSONIC

bonzo75

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Fortunately we have opinions of people who managed to listen when the neighbors were not playing loud!
There were many instances when that was possible. You should go listen sometimes yourself. Though possibly you do not realize that sound is also escaping the other way. It does not travel only one way. Brad said the room had issues. This was one of them.
 
Yes, IMO, the CH + Vivid was not helping matters. So, to me it was impossible to tell if the TT was a world killer because I thought the overall sound signature of the system was not good (and it sounded compressed a lot of the time). There were many rooms with CH precision this year and I thought they all had a similar character, which leads me to believe that it was at least in part due to that choice of electronics.

Interestingly, the Goebbel room with the smaller Divin speakers was using tubes this year (Engstrom amps as opposed to CH last year) and sounded about the best I heard at the show from a more or less conventional speaker. I think this Kronos TT system is very good and rooms that had one also had nice analog sound.
This was more or less my take on these two rooms as well. Hearing the CH + Vivid system with and without the TT over a few days led me to believe the TT did a heckuva lot of things right. It seems very even-handed: not especially musical, not especially authoritative, etc. it just did everything very very well. Well enough that the 'warts' on the sound of the system itself took a backseat to the music. World killer TT? There are a few great TTs. The Zero seems to be competitive with them, which is awesome.

Agree - this was the best I've heard Goebbel sound. And the Engstrom amps look cool :) Disagree about the Kronos - they do seem to appear in high-quality rooms but I believe coincidence, not causation. I think the AF Zero [high bar, I know :)] can save a bad sounding room, but the Kronos cannot, for instance.
 
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A recording of the TechDAS / Vivid / CH room at Munich 2019 - the music recorded in 24bit 96kHz audio [near the middle / rear of the very full room].
 

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A recording of the TechDAS / Vivid / CH room at Munich 2019 - the music recorded in 24bit 96kHz audio [near the middle / rear of the very full room].
It does not appear as though there is an LP on the Zero. Is the audio recorded separately from the video?
 
It does not appear as though there is an LP on the Zero. Is the audio recorded separately from the video?
Yes, the audio is recorded as close to the sweet spot as possible and is mounted on top of the camera / videocam - so they are recorded separately. I think I will try something different next show.
 

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A recording of the TechDAS / Vivid / CH room at Munich 2019 - the music recorded in 24bit 96kHz audio [near the middle / rear of the very full room].

What are you using to record, Tascam?
 
No. A Sony PCM-D100. Mounted on a soft MOVO suspension to reduce vibrations. Could have recorded in higher res, even DSD, but seemed like they would be problematic if we wanted to make videos with the audio - and would have to instead allow people to download the hires audio files directly off our website [still an idea for the future].

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No. A Sony PCM-D100. Mounted on a soft MOVO suspension to reduce vibrations. Could have recorded in higher res, even DSD, but seemed like they would be problematic if we wanted to make videos with the audio - and would have to instead allow people to download the hires audio files directly off our website [still an idea for the future].

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I was making 24/96 recordings st Munich with a TASCAM DR-100 MkIII. Very similar to your Sony machine. Gives a good impression on what the room was like.
 
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That video of Vivid Ch system sounded great on the special recorded trumpet and drum but not as great on the cello recording. Hearing different sound quality from two different recording could reflect a good trait of the tt. A better tt will let you hear difference and contrast from recordings more.

Tang :)
 

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