On Reference Recordings' Symphony Fantastique (still, in my view, one of the best quality recordings of classical music in history, with stunning resolution, naturalness and zero brightness) the rolling thunder of tympani builds to crescendos but loses the resolution I hear on Ali's Trio G3/Berning/EMIA/VAC/Continuum Caliburn system.
agree that is a good recording, typical of Keith Johnson's early work. detailed and balanced. and it's from tape. :) regarding Kedar's shot, i'll leave the performance quality aside. gladly i'm low enough on the classical knowledge to still like those recordings.

i really wish Prof Johnson had allowed later Reference Recording's vinyl offerings to be tape based instead of digitally based. mostly i like the 176/24 files as well as the vinyl, even 45 rpm pressings.

how do your better classical tapes compare to how this 45rpm vinyl sounds? do they better the detail and sound staging? or not quite as good? any of those you really hold in similar high esteem?
 
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One person sits in the listening chair and another person holds a mirror.

Ron, I remember learning this technique from Jim Smith when he was at my house. We use the mirror to find the first reflection point on the side walls by moving the mirror along the wall until we could see the tweeter of my speakers from the listening seat.

I’m not familiar with panel speaker. So you’re sitting in the listening seat and your friend holds a mirror along the front wall near the center of the wall behind your amplifiers. What part of the speaker are you actually seeing in that reflection? I would think you would be looking at yourself sitting in the chair.
 
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agree that is a good recording, typical of Keith Johnson's early work. detailed and balanced. and it's from tape. :)
He could have simply said exactly what you did without claiming it to be one of the best classical recordings ever, or even one of the best symphonie fantastique ever, given he has never compared it to the Cluytens on Columbia SAX that has sold for over 2k, the Klemperer on SAX, the Argenta on SXL, or the Silvestri on ASD all of which sell into the hundreds, and there are many others. In reissues the Reiner on Classic.
 
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agree that is a good recording, typical of Keith Johnson's early work. detailed and balanced. and it's from tape. :) regarding Kedar's shot, i'll leave the performance quality aside.
Me too. Kedar complained about the recording quality, as I did not write anything about the performance.

how do your better classical tapes compare to how this 45rpm vinyl sounds? do they better the detail and sound staging? or not quite as good? any of those you really hold in similar high esteem?
It's been many months since I did that kind of comparison. I recall that a couple of the classical tapes seemed even better than this RR. I don't remember which ones.
 
Me too. Kedar complained about the recording quality, as I did not write anything about the performance.
I didn’t refer to performance but recording quality claim.
 
He could have simply said exactly what you did without claiming it to be one of the best classical recordings ever, or even one of the best symphonie fantastique ever, . . .
"On Reference Recordings' Symphony Fantastique (still, in my view, one of the best quality recordings of classical music in history"
 
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"On Reference Recordings' Symphony Fantastique (still, in my view, one of the best quality recordings of classical music in history"

Yes I think that is hyperbole, please see my reply to Mike that covers it. I wrote about the recording, not about the performance
 
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How did you determine that the new location is at the “first reflection point“ on the front wall? Have you played with rotating them so the reflective strip is not aimed at the listener?

When I was into that kinda stuff I taped a reflective foil strip on the wall then used a flashlight to find the wall spot that bounced the light onto the speaker. Also works for the ceiling
 
Tbh, one of the most good looking tube amps I’ve ever seen!
The MasterSound components do look nice. With the amps the " tube protection/cages" are integrated artistically into the design, it's ingenious and looks great. The transformers are also I think a strong point in their design. Nicely potted and ample, they look the part.
 
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When I was into that kinda stuff I taped a reflective foil strip on the wall then used a flashlight to find the wall spot that bounced the light onto the speaker. Also works for the ceiling

Yes, I understand that method for the first reflection point on a side wall. My question is about locating the tube traps in the middle of the front wall. Where was the mirror held and what did he see in the reflection? I never think of first reflection points being on the front wall, but maybe he’s talking about the back wave from the panels. There seems to be no explanation forthcoming.
 
The MasterSound components do look nice. With the amps the " tube protection/cages" are integrated artistically into the design, it's ingenious and looks great. The transformers are also I think a strong point in their design. Nicely potted and ample, they look the part.
Totally agree. They have a nice symmetrical look and shape that really appeals to me, and others too I guess. I don’t know of any other tube amp that comes close to this, design wise. So very nice!

I think the designers finally has realized they need to look more like a nicely designed SS amp so it once and for all appeals to more people, and not only stand next to the speaker like an ugly glowing infra heater… LOL..!

This design for sure sets new standards!
 
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Tbh, one of the most good looking tube amps I’ve ever seen!
The MasterSound components do look nice. With the amps the " tube protection/cages" are integrated artistically into the design, it's ingenious and looks great. The transformers are also I think a strong point in their design. Nicely potted and ample they look the part.
 
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