TAD CR1 vs R1
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Honestly if it were me I would put this issue out of my mind and just enjoy the speakers. The receipt is what is important for resale, and since it was produced near launch they were probably extra careful with the production using only best materials. Even if they were in storage in a warehouse for a year it wont change a single aspect of the speakers, these things are designed to last a lifetime.
34 hours on them of almost continous playing. Very, very early, although they have evolved a lot since first time I played them.
Do not want to get carried over, but This I can say already. These are, to my ears, the best speakers I have heard Ever , and no by a small margin... If I compare what I just heard last hour and a half of so, playing a selection of tracks I know and like a lot, to previous listening of same tracks in many different systems and speakers, it is hard to find words to describe..
These do all the thing a big speaker does but even to a greater and finest extend I had ever experienced, (but what is most impressive) combined with the refinement, the transparency and precission of a monitor. And with a deepness and richness in tone that is beyond what I can describe. Oh boy...
Comparing to the Maxx 3, the sF Aidas or the Magico Q5s, to name the ones closest in price and size I considered and gave long listening sessions, to my ears and taste... There is such a difference I can not believe. They are in diferent leagues really. Not even close...
Not sure how they will evolve when 100 hours and on... Cant even imagine.. I am very excited as you can probably tell.
Do not want to get carried over, but This I can say already. These are, to my ears, the best speakers I have heard Ever , and no by a small margin... If I compare what I just heard last hour and a half of so, playing a selection of tracks I know and like a lot, to previous listening of same tracks in many different systems and speakers, it is hard to find words to describe..
These do all the thing a big speaker does but even to a greater and finest extend I had ever experienced, (but what is most impressive) combined with the refinement, the transparency and precission of a monitor. And with a deepness and richness in tone that is beyond what I can describe. Oh boy...
Comparing to the Maxx 3, the sF Aidas or the Magico Q5s, to name the ones closest in price and size I considered and gave long listening sessions, to my ears and taste... There is such a difference I can not believe. They are in diferent leagues really. Not even close...
Not sure how they will evolve when 100 hours and on... Cant even imagine.. I am very excited as you can probably tell.
Although I am probably not getting as much 'weight' in the lower registers as you are with my CR1's, I fully agree in that these speaker designs are in a different league to ANYTHING I have every previously heard and this is why I have become so passionate about this brand. The beryllium tweeter is great, but the beryllium on the midrange adds a kind of effortless transparency and resolution across the spectrum that is only really achievable with electrostats but in this case with none of the weaknesses. I honestly cannot see myself ever moving away from this brand.
Yes Joost. You know how much I liked also the CR1s. Altohugh the presentation is overall quite different from the one I am getting from the R1s, I would have also picked the CR1s over the models I said above... Well almost did actually, and would do still.
There are many brands out there I have not listened to, but asmfar as I know, These TAD, being expensive by any standard, when compared to competition out there, you are actually getting much more for every euro/dollar expended.
Wow! That is quite a description! Enjoy! I have heard the Q5 and most of the Maxxs/Alexandrias.
Thanks. to me, Q5s were more similar to the CR1s. Not counting the TADs, they were the ones I would have choosen I think. They did miss a bit on bass extension and also I think macro dynamis. The CR1s actually I felt were better in this area, as strange as it may seem if you compare the size. Tonally they were superb and great speakers overall.
The Maxx were a very different speaker. The sound was big, dynamic, very espectacular if you want. Made a great listen on the short term. But tonally speaking felt behind the others and the most colored to my ears. i felt these were great for esporadic listening but the less neutral and transparent of tham all. Huge soundstage but not as precise as the others.
Dont have any experience with the Alexandria.
All were overall good speakers, with their differences that I guess will appeal to different people/tastes.
Have 50 hoyrs already on the R1s... Have them on all day long and good part of night... Want to get to good listening conditions asap. i wonder if 300 hours is the time required as many people report for the CR1s.
The Maxx were a very different speaker. The sound was big, dynamic, very espectacular if you want. Made a great listen on the short term. But tonally speaking felt behind the others and the most colored to my ears. i felt these were great for esporadic listening but the less neutral and transparent of tham all. Huge soundstage but not as precise as the others.
Dont have any experience with the Alexandria.
All were overall good speakers, with their differences that I guess will appeal to different people/tastes.
Have 50 hoyrs already on the R1s... Have them on all day long and good part of night... Want to get to good listening conditions asap. i wonder if 300 hours is the time required as many people report for the CR1s.
Personally, in the last 2-3 years i have started to read about or hear for myself a few components that have managed to deliver flat response, or ultra transparency...without sounding thin or brittle, and/or without requiring exceptionally carefuly setup/matching with other components to avoid sounding this way. It is extremely impressive and i look forward to hearing more about your new Q5s as they open up. enjoy!
Not sure what the 'official' stance is if there is one but I think the mods here are pretty easy going about that. Plus, everyone here knows about AA and they know it's a bit of a different community that hangs out there 
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. (I'm assuming it's AA).No, no, is audiogon. a long post on speaker break in techniques, opnions and the like. There are lots of garbage posts of no use, like always, but also some very interesting "theories"
I will post next than and if is against rules, moderator justnerase and sorry for that.
I will post next than and if is against rules, moderator justnerase and sorry for that.
Here
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?cspkr&1322881738&openfrom&1&4#1
Long but some posts, opinions are very interesting. Your thoughts?
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?cspkr&1322881738&openfrom&1&4#1
Long but some posts, opinions are very interesting. Your thoughts?
I have heard playing them facing each other cancels out phase and is not nearly as loud...and you can just let them run all day, all night. Our local dealer here does that for their speaker break-in before showing equipment for auditions.
The problem for you is weight...moving them into that position is difficult, and then until you move them back, you cannot listen to them when you want to. I have heard Break-in CDs can work well...otherwise, i think you might just need to break them in 'the old fashioned way'...play them normally as much as you can...and possibly overnight if you've got them in a room where no one can hear it when sleeping, just to speed it up.
The problem for you is weight...moving them into that position is difficult, and then until you move them back, you cannot listen to them when you want to. I have heard Break-in CDs can work well...otherwise, i think you might just need to break them in 'the old fashioned way'...play them normally as much as you can...and possibly overnight if you've got them in a room where no one can hear it when sleeping, just to speed it up.
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