Ron’s New System

[sbo6]

check.

i think plenty of side subjects should stay on a system thread, and also they might seem like small issues to begin with but then become major side discussions. that's normal and how it goes sometimes.

but......this case is (1) it's a big broad subject, and (2) obviously a completely separate subject and not in any way connected to 'Ron's New System'. unless Ron tells us different.

Imagine if such restrictions were placed on conversations, what a boring world it would be.

Let it flow, as long as it veers back on course, WGAS IMO (no slight on you, Mike).

 

[c1ferrari]

Too easy.....

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Okay, the middle image contains carbon!

 

[microstrip]

none taken. it was simply a suggestion. last time @pk_LA and Ron did a comprehensive dac preview pk started a new thread and it was really fruitful and lasted for 359 posts. and was referenced for a long time by many. being buried in Ron's thread will simply dilute it and make it harder to follow and develop. pk and Ron put in some effort. i have no agenda in any case other than enjoying that subject discussion and hoping it ramps up.

Mike,

I think you are missing the more important point - @pk_LA started a thread with an impressive comprehensive, detailed and well though starting post that created an elan for a long thread. The only person that could trigger such post is Ron - why can't we have it in this thread? Knowing his perspectives will help people reading his system thread. Member's system threads are more than gear, as you know well , they involve owner soul in the discussion. Ok, just my suggestion ...

 

[jbrrp1]

Okay, the middle image contains carbon!

Actually, it doesn't. It's a silicon-oxygen chemistry, not hydrogen-carbon. Nothing organic about it.

 

[Big Dog RJ]

Ah! Enjoy those fine tooons maties. I can clearly see everyone's tapping to the music... great!

BTW nice one Ronny, that room with all that gear... must have been one heck of ride! Reminds me of those few good mates I keep in touch with. One chap has ML Statements Evo-II's, another Genesis Dragons, YG Acoustics, big Rockports, Gryphon Pendragons, and one still has his mighty Infinity's IRS V, alongside his beloved Apogee Diva's, which have both been fully restored (newer parts, drivers with circular ribbons) great stuff. The gear is top notch! From ARC, VAC, CJ, Dan D's designs and Pass Labs XS series, phenomenal! Always a treat to audition, and learn something new each time I get a chance to visit.

One chap has a full drum kit with Sabian and Zildjian cybals, so just for fun I give it a good whack! Oh my! That's the Absolute Sound... which no playback system (man made) can ever replicate. Not even the piano. This however is the actual live instrument... so recorded playback is evolving but the physics is such... not the same thing. Not at all. Anyway, that was just a mention to say that we had a lot of fun. Enjoying our times, meeting old pals, and talking shop all things audio.

So, relax maties. Just sit back and enjoy those finest tunes. Ronny had a great time with all this gear, and it's something to learn from, not to criticise. I'm going back to listen to Dominique Fils-Aime now, she's waiting to sing in the lounge room.
Woof! RJ

 

[Johan K]

Ah! Enjoy those fine tooons maties. I can clearly see everyone's tapping to the music... great!

BTW nice one Ronny, that room with all that gear... must have been one heck of ride! Reminds me of those few good mates I keep in touch with. One chap has ML Statements Evo-II's, another Genesis Dragons, YG Acoustics, big Rockports, Gryphon Pendragons, and one still has his mighty Infinity's IRS V, alongside his beloved Apogee Diva's, which have both been fully restored (newer parts, drivers with circular ribbons) great stuff. The gear is top notch! From ARC, VAC, CJ, Dan D's designs and Pass Labs XS series, phenomenal! Always a treat to audition, and learn something new each time I get a chance to visit.

One chap has a full drum kit with Sabian and Zildjian cybals, so just for fun I give it a good whack! Oh my! That's the Absolute Sound... which no playback system (man made) can ever replicate. Not even the piano. This however is the actual live instrument... so recorded playback is evolving but the physics is such... not the same thing. Not at all. Anyway, that was just a mention to say that we had a lot of fun. Enjoying our times, meeting old pals, and talking shop all things audio.

So, relax maties. Just sit back and enjoy those finest tunes. Ronny had a great time with all this gear, and it's something to learn from, not to criticise. I'm going back to listen to Dominique Fils-Aime now, she's waiting to sing in the lounge room.
Woof! RJ

Nice write up Big Dog, and nice to hear from you again, it’s been a while !

/ Jk

 

[Big Dog RJ]

Nice write up Big Dog, and nice to hear from you again, it’s been a while !

/ Jk

Cheers matey.
Yeah, wasn't feeling too flash these few weeks... my pops was not doing so well (92). He was my best mate! We did everything together, and most of it were those wonderful times exploring the Adelphi in Spore- high-end audio heaven! Anyway, that's just life I guess... so I decided to hop back on, just to get my mind off the sadness, and try to enjoy the music once again. Some days are good, and some days not so great. That's why I simply cannot understand why some have to be so snappy all the time. Just enjoy life and most of all, enjoy those finest tunes!

That's all I can say.
Woof! RJ

 

[marty]

Actually, it doesn't. It's a silicon-oxygen chemistry, not hydrogen-carbon. Nothing organic about it.

Forgive a reply to OT material, but according to Google....
The "silicone" material used in implants is a polymer made of repeating molecules of silicon, oxygen, carbon, and hydrogen. Specifically, the most common type of silicone is poly(dimethylsiloxane) (PDMS), where each silicon atom is bonded to two methyl groups, with each methyl group containing one carbon atom and three hydrogen atoms.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Hi Ron,

Which recordings, analog and digital, most closely mimic Stevie Nicks in the room singing to you?

Best,

Sam

Hi Sam,

Are you asking which recording do I think is the most convincing recording of Stevie Nicks?

 

[Ron Resnick]

I have reported all of the implant and chemistry related posts. I don't want those posts on my system thread.

Thank you.

 

[PeterA]

In the last five weeks a dear friend of mine and I have auditioned on Wilson XVX or on Rockport Lyras, mostly in his very familiar system, Burmester 159 monos, Constellation Statement stereo, D'Agostino Relentless monos, Soulution 717 monos, VAC 300 monos, Boulder 3010 preamp, Soulution 727 preamp, D'Agostino preamp, ARC Ref 6 preamp and VAC Reference preamp. The sources were LampizatOr Horizon360 or dCS Varese.

It has been very interesting to take a tour of some state-of-the-art, flagship solid-state components.

Ron, are you going to share any listening impressions with us? Given such a variety of electronics, did you prefer one speaker over the other and which DAC was more convincing at bringing Stevie Nicks into the room in front of you?

 

[Audiohertz2]

No. Our early prototypes were zero feedback and showed the project was worth pursuing. Distortion has a way of obscuring detail (particularly low level detail) so if you can make the amp lower distortion (regardless of its technology) an immediate improvement will be perception of detail.

Feedback isn't bad unless its inappropriately applied, which is pretty common in audio; on that account its gained an undeserved bad rap.

@Ron Resnick Did you ever get your amp set up with the right capacitor values, of which we previously discussed?

Please note ..!

Anti feedback advocate for decades is now praising feedback , if used correctly that is , like in Class D amps ..

You cant make this stuff up ..

 

[Atmasphere]

Please note ..!

Anti feedback advocate for decades is now praising feedback , if used correctly that is , like in Class D amps ..

You cant make this stuff up ..

Or in something called Schade feedback, which is similar to how its done with opamps.

Both are quite different in how the feedback affects the amp.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I have said and written this for a long time, but actual listening experience over time has only persuaded me more strongly that implementation trumps theory. For example, my "theory" has always been that more negative feedback is unnatural/bad and that switching power supples are noisy/bad. Yet the Soulution 717 with (I believe) lots of feedback and switching power supplies probably is the best sounding high power solid-state amplifier I have ever heard.

 

[Atmasphere]

I have said and written this for a long time, but actual listening experience over time has only persuaded me more strongly that implementation trumps theory. For example, my "theory" has always been that more negative feedback is unnatural/bad and that switching power supples are noisy/bad. Yet the Soulution 717 with (I believe) lots of feedback and switching power supplies probably is the best sounding high power solid-state amplifier I have ever heard.

For starters, your theory was incorrect and its a very common misconception, one of which I entertained for years.

Turns out it matters how feedback is applied! Its not a trivial matter and a good feedback loop design can be harder than the rest of the amp's design. So yes, I'm saying there's a lot of amps out there where the feedback isn't doing the design justice so its no surprise this idea of too much feedback is out there. But its not feedback's fault at all.

Switching power supplies used to be quite noisy. Those days are long gone (although cheap ones can still be noisy). But for an amplifier to be shown in its best light, the supply really should be designed for the application in much the same way as one might when using traditional power supplies.

 

[morricab]

I have said and written this for a long time, but actual listening experience over time has only persuaded me more strongly that implementation trumps theory. For example, my "theory" has always been that more negative feedback is unnatural/bad and that switching power supples are noisy/bad. Yet the Soulution 717 with (I believe) lots of feedback and switching power supplies probably is the best sounding high power solid-state amplifier I have ever heard.

Note the qualifiers “high power “ and “SS”…a low bar, IMO..

 

[bonzo75]

Soulution power amps are not close to being the best. AVM at much lower price is quite better in direct compares. Soulution preamp is excellent though, especially with valve power amps. And the 725 preamp which was switching is not as good as the 720 (iirc 720 was not s switching)

 

[XV-1]

Boy & Bear

 

[XV-1]

Luke Steele – Listen To The Water

 

[bonzo75]

It would be interesting to see if Ron moves to SS like Soulution as the main amp after resisting those of us who recommended him SS for his speakers all this time.