Thank you, Maril. I like the various system videos showing how horn based systems can indeed play rock music with impact and power just like big cone box speakers. Such videos demonstrate that some horns can be pretty good at presenting all genres of music.
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Thank you, Maril. I like the various system videos showing how horn based systems can indeed play rock music with impact and power just like big cone box speakers. Such videos demonstrate that some horns can be pretty good at presenting all genres of music.
I can see how one would form that opinion, but I disagree.
For context I used Surviors Ultimate Survior(2004) compilation album for this particular track rather than their 1982 Eye Of The Tiger album via Tidal music streaming. It seemed like the better recording. I did do a comparison with headphones between the album track and my system recording. I feel like the tonality is similar minus the typical room interactions.
This is a checkpoint I occasionally do to determine system building efforts are generally heading in the right direction. My thoughts are, more similarity equates to evidence of better system accuracy to the actual recording. It was of my general opinion as of a few years ago was that systems, with a digital front end, treble extension and intensity were directly associated with heard siblances(which I'm rather sensitive to). I've now determine this to be a misguided assumption.
I'm not going to get into what causes siblances nor EMI and ground plane interactions with DAC's, only that each time I've feel like I've made improvements in those areas, specifically concerning the treble spectrum, siblances decrease, articulation also increases, with lastly an increase in intensity and extension at the highest frequencies in comparison to the rest of the range.
It is something special to aurally "see" detailed hard cymbal hits with proper high frequency extension appear in 3D space(and I mean x, y, & z axis), with cymbals of the set not necessarily all at the same plane and anchored towards the speakers.
Image is more volumetric and contiguous rather than holographic, there's not just body to the instruments or voice, there's a sense of mechanical construction verses the later being planar with cutout images.
To give a better sense of what I'm talking about, I've first heard this some years ago with Martin Logan Neo's, Spectral components, and MIT cabling. What I found captivating is one solo recording of a grand piano. There was physical body with depth to the instrument but more importantly to me I could vividly "see"(hear) notes from soundboard reflect off the lid towards me to the point. Clearly understanding the foolery, I got up to see if I could aurally "peer" into the soundboard.
Although far from what believe to be a final resting point for a system build, it now clearly does the said above in spades and I believe much of it has to do with the changes made affecting the perceived frequency balance. It is not harsh or irritating, actually it is furthest from that. It is inviting, leaving me wanting more, and often startling(during dynamic peaks) to experience.
For context I used Surviors Ultimate Survior(2004) compilation album for this particular track rather than their 1982 Eye Of The Tiger album via Tidal music streaming. It seemed like the better recording. I did do a comparison with headphones between the album track and my system recording. I feel like the tonality is similar minus the typical room interactions.
This is a checkpoint I occasionally do to determine system building efforts are generally heading in the right direction. My thoughts are, more similarity equates to evidence of better system accuracy to the actual recording. It was of my general opinion as of a few years ago was that systems, with a digital front end, treble extension and intensity were directly associated with heard siblances(which I'm rather sensitive to). I've now determine this to be a misguided assumption.
I'm not going to get into what causes siblances nor EMI and ground plane interactions with DAC's, only that each time I've feel like I've made improvements in those areas, specifically concerning the treble spectrum, siblances decrease, articulation also increases, with lastly an increase in intensity and extension at the highest frequencies in comparison to the rest of the range.
It is something special to aurally "see" detailed hard cymbal hits with proper high frequency extension appear in 3D space(and I mean x, y, & z axis), with cymbals of the set not necessarily all at the same plane and anchored towards the speakers.
Image is more volumetric and contiguous rather than holographic, there's not just body to the instruments or voice, there's a sense of mechanical construction verses the later being planar with cutout images.
To give a better sense of what I'm talking about, I've first heard this some years ago with Martin Logan Neo's, Spectral components, and MIT cabling. What I found captivating is one solo recording of a grand piano. There was physical body with depth to the instrument but more importantly to me I could vividly "see"(hear) notes from soundboard reflect off the lid towards me to the point. Clearly understanding the foolery, I got up to see if I could aurally "peer" into the soundboard.
Although far from what believe to be a final resting point for a system build, it now clearly does the said above in spades and I believe much of it has to do with the changes made affecting the perceived frequency balance. It is not harsh or irritating, actually it is furthest from that. It is inviting, leaving me wanting more, and often startling(during dynamic peaks) to experience.
I just don't think it's a good version, the vinyl rip below is more like it's supposed to sound:
Okay, after seeing your post I was a bit skeptical about comparisons between streaming via Tidal vs YouTube app. I did some back and forth listening between the two a few times.
Surprisingly I can hear some vinyl glow through the recording when comparing. There is also definitely an added clarity to what I believe are the hi-hat strikes in the beginning of the YouTube version that Tidal is lacking. Less of a congealed splash and more articulation.
Wow, this was an interesting experiment and thank you for the rip link.
It’s not a matter of agreement or disagreement. The video sound is what it is. If you perceive your sound differently in the room, then that’s good, no need to right a thesis about it
Thesis? Perhaps you have preferred a simple "No, your wrong." as a completed retort?
In the spirit of being more engaging I was attempting to give more detail to why I believed your assumptions were inaccurate. In short, since that seems to be preference, most system with digital front ends that are highly detailed tend to be harsh and headache inducing. This system is has a digital front end, is detailed, in my opinion is more accurate/true to the recording, is not harsh, and here are the stated reasons to why.
So, while I agreed with you that yes, your link does sound better, I mentioned nothing about the perceived differences in high frequency energy between the two recordings, in which I still think they're similar.
You asked if I thought it was bright sounding, my answer was and still is "No".
In the spirit of being more engaging I was attempting to give more detail to why I believed your assumptions were inaccurate. In short, since that seems to be preference, most system with digital front ends that are highly detailed tend to be harsh and headache inducing. This system is has a digital front end, is detailed, in my opinion is more accurate/true to the recording, is not harsh, and here are the stated reasons to why.
So, while I agreed with you that yes, your link does sound better, I mentioned nothing about the perceived differences in high frequency energy between the two recordings, in which I still think they're similar.
You asked if I thought it was bright sounding, my answer was and still is "No".
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