Luxman m10x or gryphon antileon evo

[Redphu]

Looking for amp to match m2. Currently using nagra tube dac into amp. Trying to decide between the these options:

lux m10x in stereo or mono
Or
Gryphon antileon evo

Would love input to help me decide.

 

[GSOphile]

I had an Esoteric K-01XD -> Gryphon Diablo 300 -> Magico S3 MkII*. I listen to mostly classical and jazz. After playing with DAC upsampling and filter options, etc, I was still not happy with somewhat harsh string tone on too much music, so I replaced the Gryphon integrated with a Luxman M-10X/Esoteric Grandioso C1X solo. Very happy with this. Significantly more involving, refined sound.

Have not heard the Evo, but reports have been very positive. I doubt you'd be unhappy no matter which way you go, although depending on your location/environment, the Evo's heat output could be an issue.

* Will be replaced by S3 2023.

 

[Redphu]

Thanks for the insight. I believe the gryphon antileon evo in particular will give me that Luxman sound and perhaps more slam in the bass.

 

[GSOphile]

Agree, although unlike its predecessor M-900u, the M-10X is not light in the pants. And for the price of an Evo, you could get a second M-10X for a dual mono configuration.

I'm kinda interested to see how the new Diablo 333 is going to turn out.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...hey! I'm listening to two Luxy m900u bridged right now. Light in the pants? No way! Would love two of the new M-10X babies nonetheless!

 

[Redphu]

So would 2 m10 x give better results than gryphon evo? From the description the Gryphon antileon evo has been dubbed the tube SS amp with the strengths of both tube and SS however some says it’s “dark”. Not looking for anything that’s laid back and slow.

 

[GSOphile]

...hey! I'm listening to two Luxy m900u bridged right now. Light in the pants? No way! Would love two of the new M-10X babies nonetheless!

My apologies. I have no experience with M-900u's and was reporting hearsay regarding the single amp stereo configuration relative to the M-10X..

 

[JiminGa]

I can tell you that the Diablo 300 and the Antileon Evo are very very different from each other.. You can’t draw a conclusion about one based upon the other. You have to listen for yourself.

 

[GSOphile]

I can tell you that the Diablo 300 and the Antileon Evo are very very different from each other.. You can’t draw a conclusion about one based upon the other. You have to listen for yourself.

Completely agree. (The Evo is a legendary product and on a different level above the 300 integrated.)

 

[exupgh12]

Looking for amp to match m2. Currently using nagra tube dac into amp. Trying to decide between the these options:

lux m10x in stereo or mono
Or
Gryphon antileon evo

Would love input to help me decide.

You should look at the DAC output impedance and gain to check which one of the two amps have inputs impedance and gain matching your DAC.

saying that, plenty of Magico users have great experience with Luxman amplification. I know of at least 5 friends beside me that drive their Magico speakers with luxman M10x or M900.

I’m not aware of anybody over here (Israel) doing so with a gryphon amplifier.

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...to add to that, I actually contacted Luxman and Magico regarding the pairing, before purchasing the A5s. Green light from those guys, and it has been a great sounding set-up. Using the c900 pre too, FYI.

 

[ozy]

Tried the gryphon antilleon with MY m6 and thought it darkened the sound.the presentation was quite veiled and unengaging.
opted for the esoteric M1X instead- open ,life like ,detailed and musical.

 

[Redphu]

Tried the gryphon antilleon with MY m6 and thought it darkened the sound.the presentation was quite veiled and unengaging.
opted for the esoteric M1X instead- open ,life like ,detailed and musical.

Wow thanks for confirming my suspicion. Appreciate the feedback.

 

[sbnx]

Thanks for the insight. I believe the gryphon antileon evo in particular will give me that Luxman sound and perhaps more slam in the bass.

Gryphon does bass like no other amp. If you want GRIP and slam then Gryphon can’t be beat. The Antileon evo is definitely the warmest sounding Gryphon.

Luxman is a totally different sound. Still very nice. The M10x ans new S3’s sounded great at axpona.

 

[Redphu]

Gryphon does bass like no other amp. If you want GRIP and slam then Gryphon can’t be beat. The Antileon evo is definitely the warmest sounding Gryphon.

Luxman is a totally different sound. Still very nice. The M10x ans new S3’s sounded great at axpona.

Appreciate the helpful insight. I’m planning on running the M10x in mono mode and maybe add a tube preamp stage for that touch of analog sound. So glad jump on the Gryphon and thank you for confirming I made the correct choice.

 

[Redphu]

Breaking in the Luxman 10mx liking what I’m hearing already right out of the box. Thanks everyone.

 

[ozy]

Great choice, imho.the luxman and esoteric are similar in sound signature and more engaging then the gryphon .

 

[Redphu]

Im considering pairing a tube preamp. Any suggestions or thoughts. I’m using a borrowed Luxman preamp c900 u which sounds wonderful but as always looking for “better” lol. And it has to go back.

 

[ozy]

The new Luxman C10x is out …..you ought to try and give it a listen…..

 

[Redphu]

Dealer also recommends the whole synergy with Luxman pre and as a matter of fact I’m using the Luxman c900 right now and 10Mx is already better 20 with only 20 plus hours in. I’m only asking because I have the nagra tube dac and wonder if the HD Preamp would be “better” and would look sick.