Yes, some people did object. Mostly ankle-biters who had no alternatives or contributions other than to play the like game. I did not see his thread as some sort priggish elitism, but some audiophiles who are highly sensitive people like to strike out from a distance.
I don't think Peter's intent was to represent anyone other than himself, much less 99.99% of all audiophiles. From the perspective of reference, natural sound draws from experience with live acoustic music. Then, there are other references. In that sense there is a dichotomy that some see as black and white but is actually self-created. Some are unable to describe or even know what their reference is so they turn that into "natural sound vs me" and whine about the title. But there is nothing inherent in Peter's account that claims that or anything else about others.
Re that 99.99%: people who come to WWF (here) looking for consensus or agreement are perennially disappointed. This forum is not designed or built for consensus. It is built for conflict which generates more revenue.
Well, now you try discrediting those who object to your or Peter positions. Sorry, I will not enter such discussion, I have a far better opinion about our usual posters than you, although we disagree a lot.
And sorry, by definition audiophiles disagree - stereo is an individual experimentation just because we do not have absolute references, but our own personnel reference. But sometimes groups of people share similar preferences - we see it here all the time. And I do not consider that this forum is driven by revenue objectives.
Yes, some people did object. Mostly ankle-biters who had no alternatives or contributions other than to play the like game. I did not see his thread as some sort priggish elitism, but some audiophiles who are highly sensitive people like to strike out from a distance.
I don't think Peter's intent was to represent anyone other than himself, much less 99.99% of all audiophiles. From the perspective of reference, natural sound draws from experience with live acoustic music. Then, there are other references. In that sense there is a dichotomy that some see as black and white but is actually self-created. Some are unable to describe or even know what their reference is so they turn that into "natural sound vs me" and whine about the title. But there is nothing inherent in Peter's account that claims that or anything else about others.
Re that 99.99%: people who come to WWF (here) looking for consensus or agreement are perennially disappointed. This forum is not designed or built for consensus. It is built for conflict which generates more revenue.
From the above: "From the perspective of reference, natural sound draws from experience with live acoustic music."
As a regular reader of this forum, Tim, you will be fully aware that there are many other participants here, myself included, that also have live acoustic music as a reference for natural sound *), but nevertheless do not subscribe to the narrow kind of system approach espoused by the "Natural Sound" crowd.
These participants object to the idea of this approach as being the only valid one with the live acoustic music reference in mind. Instead, they build their systems around very different approaches of sound reproduction.
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*) And some of us actively calibrate this reference on an ongoing basis. This year a friend (another WBF member) and I already have been to several concerts together, and will attend the next one on Saturday.
I understand people have opinions. What is discouraging is when the opinion is solely negative without any alternative offered. It is fine to have a personal reference, but I don't recall anyone claiming or describing that -- I truly wish to learn alternatives. But negativity alone does not go far with me.
A change of pace... I was curious to listen to these speakers, and right out of the box, I like what I am hearing. 1956! Will be considering several enclosures and plan to use them in my "home office".
Recorded with my phone. Will make some other recordings once I have them set up and broken in (I understand these types of speakers need to be played regularly).
A change of pace... I was curious to listen to these speakers, and right out of the box, I like what I am hearing. 1956! Will be considering several enclosures and plan to use them in my "home office".
Recorded with my phone. Will make some other recordings once I have them set up and broken in (I understand these types of speakers need to be played regularly).
Yes, I have seen some. Which is why I was curious to hear a model for myself. The famous 755 are rare and expensive, and these seemed like a more reasonable way to get my toes wet.
So I guess there is some value to watching videos.
755? What did you do to 288 g/h? Driver is the third thing. The horn speaker that you choose and crossover are the first two as the driver has to fit the speaker design and a bad crossover can ruin a good driver
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I wish you succes, hopkins
But calling these units full range or a design in which these are used full range , is misinformation.
Its an insult to people who design products/ spend a lot of money on designs that really cover the 20 -20 khz spectrum fully / audibly .
(-3 db roll off max )
By the way where is another organ vid on this thread ( members system vid ??)
Ps These " Full range Altecs " may make a pleasing rolled off sound , one can t argue regarding taste after all
I wish you succes, hopkins
But calling these units full range or a design in which these are used full range , is misinformation
Its an insult to people who design products that really cover the 20 -20 khz spectrum fully / audibly .
(-3 db roll off max )
By the way where is another organ vid on this thread with a members system ??
Don't get me wrong, I am well aware of the benefits of true "full range"! This is just a fun little project, and I think I will enjoy the sound in the context in which I use them. That's all.
Key differences in streamer/DAC playback are easily heard in this video. At the end they compare power supplies, I was quite surprised the difference is also easily heard:
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I am hearing a lot of upper midrange energy. (I am wondering to myself if maybe the subjective perceived frequency response of my system is spot on right now, and I just don't know what live acoustic instruments at close range sound like.)
You are a wise man!
