Done with digital

[Audire]

One man's trash is another man's treasure. It seems every generation says that same thing about new music. My parents told me the same thing. I remember my grandparents saying the same thing to my parents. And yes I say the same thing to my kids. Funny how everyone thinks their generation had the best music.

Calling trash a treasure doesn’t mean it isn’t trash. A sanitation engineer is still a trash collector and IMO today‘s music remains mostly trash. As stated 70% still like the old vs. the new.

 

[bryans]

Calling trash a treasure doesn’t mean it isn’t trash. A sanitation engineer is still a trash collector and IMO today‘s music remains mostly trash. As stated 70% still like the old vs. the new.

Totally disagree. I don't even believe the idea that 70% of all listeners in the world listen to "old" music. Not even sure how one can even clarify this. What is old music like music from the 40s, 50s, 60s??

Sorry you don't get the trash analogy.

 

[bryans]

You just do not see anticipated new releases and songs everyone is clamoring to hear or buy anymore.
I love new music and I do not care what generation it spawns from.
You don't see people lining up at music stores to buy new releases. I have personally done that many times, and it actually scored me a first pressing unedited album cover of Some Girls lol.
When on go on discovery mode streaming I listen first then investigate further, there just seems to be a lot of very uninteresting and un-invloving music coming out these days, but I do agree with the first sentence of your post 100%

I like to think people don't line up for new releases because times have changed. We all know streaming is the dominate thing.

 

[jespera]

For me, "vinyl's dirty little secret" is that, for classical enthusiasts, there have been no new analog-recorded LPs of standard repertoire released in this century. A few one-off specials carry little weight.

Anything truly analog the whole way from recording to record in any genre the last 30 years?

I can think of only a handful of titles.

Only reissues that I trust is analogue productions. They are excellent though.

Most other “audiophile” reissues are sourced from digital — and you can hear it.

 

[jespera]

As a rough guesstimate , what percentage of newly recorded material or remastered albums are true analogue source material transferred to analogue master ?

0.01 % or less

 

[Audire]

Totally disagree. I don't even believe the idea that 70% of all listeners in the world listen to "old" music. Not even sure how one can even clarify this. What is old music like music from the 40s, 50s, 60s??

Sorry you don't get the trash analogy.

See post #74 for the posted article regarding 70%

 

[Mike Lavigne]

I like to think people don't line up for new releases because times have changed. We all know streaming is the dominate thing.

every week, most times Friday morning, Quboz (Tidal has their's too) has their 'Grand List' which is the new releases. i really enjoy sampling those new titles, investigating the artists and linked music. i take the whole week and do some of it each day. sometimes it leads to buying vinyl too.

use to be i would be at Tower Records every Saturday. or 50 years ago at the local record store on Tuesday. but new music is the lifeblood.

you won't find it in your stack of records at home.

we all approach the hobby in our own way, there are no bad ways to love music or hifi.

 

[PeterA]

Yawn - another digital vs vinyl pissing contest on wbf.

The question from OP was did anyone else on here give up their digital in pursuit of an analogue only direction.

I gave up digital for an analog only system. I had digital only from about 1993 to 2002. Then both formats until 2012. I then bought a much better turntable, arm and cartridge and decided to get rid of digital completely.

I kept the CDs and the player in the rare event my turntable breaks down so I have something to listen to. But the CD player is in storage and only comes out if needed in an emergency. I did take a handful of CDs on an 11 hour driving trip the other day. I was astonished at how much better the CDs sound then the digital streaming radio over my truck’s stereo system.

For years I kept waiting for digital to improve enough to get a place back in my listening system. I thought streaming was the future and I was going to wait until it got better than CDs but that day never came for me. At the same time my vinyl source got better and better.

After ten years, I don’t ever see digital being in my main system. I listen to digital music on the computer and truck. Even with seemingly infinite amounts of new music available, I find myself preferring older more familiar music. There is so much unknown jazz and classical that exists on vinyl, that I will never get bored finding LPs of unfamiliar music and recordings. It just isn’t contemporary music.

We all make our choices.

 

[Al M.]

every week, most times Friday morning, Quboz (Tidal has their's too) has their 'Grand List' which is the new releases. i really enjoy sampling those new titles, investigating the artists and linked music. i take the whole week and do some of it each day. sometimes it leads to buying vinyl too.

use to be i would be at Tower Records every Saturday. or 50 years ago at the local record store on Tuesday. but new music is the lifeblood.

you won't find it in your stack of records at home.

we all approach the hobby in our own way, there are no bad ways to love music or hifi.

Indeed. I currently explore some absolutely fantastic music in my CD collection that I haven't played in 15, 20 years. Wow, what a thrill of rediscovery!

(And no, you won't find that music by Stockhausen on vinyl either.)

 

[bryans]

See post #74 for the posted article regarding 70%

Yup saw post #74 and I still believe what I posted.

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

I like to think people don't line up for new releases because times have changed. We all know streaming is the dominate thing.

I think you get my drift. When a major pop star, MJ, Madonna or whoever it was at the time, was going to release a new album it was talked about for sometime before it was released, was even talked about in the news and there was a lot of hype and anticipation built up around it.
Now you just go online or to the music store and its just there with all the rest of the music.
My opinion is that there is just nothing that interesting being put out these days to entertain the masses.

 

[facten]

For new music in genres that I enjoy. for instance. Blues, and Smoothjazz I goggle websites such as : rockandbluesmuse.com; allaboutbluesmusic.com; newreleasesnow.com; smoothjazz.com; jazztrax.com; amoothjazztherapy.com to identify new albums out/coming out; as well as, for identifying artists that I may not be familiar with. I also find, for me , new music/artist via WBF's What's Spinning Thread , for instance a member turned me onto Strunz & Farah , which in turn lead me to other "new flamenco" artists such as Nova Menco, Ottmar Liebert, Oscar Lopez, Jesse Cook.

 

[Al M.]

I think you get my drift. When a major pop star, MJ, Madonna or whoever it was at the time, was going to release a new album it was talked about for sometime before it was released, was even talked about in the news and there was a lot of hype and anticipation built up around it.
Now you just go online or to the music store and its just there with all the rest of the music.
My opinion is that there is just nothing that interesting being put out these days to entertain the masses.

Who cares about the "masses"? You can find lots of good new music out there.

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

Who cares about the "masses"? You can find lots of good new music out there.

Audire said:


Nope - “Old songs now represent 70 percent of the U.S. music market. Even worse: The new-music market is actually shrinking.”

Is Old Music Killing New Music?​

Have you listened to the new music, does this surprise you somehow? There is some good new music out there, just not in the pop genre, its deplorable.

I agree 100% Al, as I posted this earlier, in fact there is quite a bit of it, just not in the pop genre.

 

[bryans]

Everyone has what they like. For example I'm not a fan of classical music. I didn't like it when I played in classical band and still don't. That doesn't mean it's bad or there isn't any good music coming out. I just don't care for it.

Enjoy whatever music genre you love.

 

[Tuckers]

acording to ebay you have $4000 sitting in a box, sell that thing you are never going to use again.

Lol, I've been gearing up to it. I doubt I would get half that though.

 

[TooCool4]

Lol, I've been gearing up to it. I doubt I would get half that though.

If sold as is, then maybe not but if you get it fully serviced by a reputable tech / shop you can get high price for it. Tandberg 3014A are well sort after, try tapeheads.net someone over there may even buy it off you.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

every week, most times Friday morning, Quboz (Tidal has their's too) has their 'Grand List' which is the new releases. i really enjoy sampling those new titles, investigating the artists and linked music. i take the whole week and do some of it each day. sometimes it leads to buying vinyl too.

use to be i would be at Tower Records every Saturday. or 50 years ago at the local record store on Tuesday. but new music is the lifeblood.

you won't find it in your stack of records at home.

we all approach the hobby in our own way, there are no bad ways to love music or hifi.

this morning there are 27 new titles on Quboz Grand Selection.....from classical, to blues, to pop, to jazz, to rap.

and artist information, track attribution and cover examples, and related links to hundreds, thousands, maybe millions of albums of related music. and a question tab at the ready. and the web ready at hand for any related thing. it's trivial (cheap-cheap) to have streaming and a dac to play high rez versions if you already have a system. $20-$30 a month depending on the subscription if you are already able to post here.

not to mention on the spot playlists, or saved playlists for all sorts of reasons.

how can one not want this?

28 years ago now my kids were off to college and i jumped headlong into the high end. maybe the biggest single factor of learning for me was reading the backs of Lp's, even better the CD booklets (which had much more info in them), and learning about artists, and hifi magazines music reviews. as a 60's Rock n' Roll guy, it quickly expanded my musical landscape and allowed me to learn jazz, blues, and eventually classical. now i'm 70% classical. it was a great amount of effort expended. streaming is a much much better.....easier.......process.

i realize some pass on streaming, but it seems fundamental to the hobby to my views. YMMV.

 

[Hi-FiGuy]

this morning there are 27 new titles on Quboz Grand Selection.....from classical, to blues, to pop, to jazz, to rap.

and artist information, track attribution and cover examples, and related links to hundreds, thousands, maybe millions of albums of related music. and a question tab at the ready. and the web ready at hand for any related thing. it's trivial (cheap-cheap) to have streaming and a dac to play high rez versions if you already have a system. $20-$30 a month depending on the subscription if you are already able to post here.

not to mention on the spot playlists, or saved playlists for all sorts of reasons.

how can one not want this?

28 years ago now my kids were off to college and i jumped headlong into the high end. maybe the biggest single factor of learning for me was reading the backs of Lp's, even better the CD booklets (which had much more info in them), and learning about artists, and hifi magazines music reviews. as a 60's Rock n' Roll guy, it quickly expanded my musical landscape and allowed me to learn jazz, blues, and eventually classical. now i'm 70% classical. it was a great amount of effort expended. streaming is a much much better.....easier.......process.

i realize some pass on streaming, but it seems fundamental to the hobby to my views. YMMV.

100% across the board!

 

[bryans]

this morning there are 27 new titles on Quboz Grand Selection.....from classical, to blues, to pop, to jazz, to rap.

and artist information, track attribution and cover examples, and related links to hundreds, thousands, maybe millions of albums of related music. and a question tab at the ready. and the web ready at hand for any related thing. it's trivial (cheap-cheap) to have streaming and a dac to play high rez versions if you already have a system. $20-$30 a month depending on the subscription if you are already able to post here.

not to mention on the spot playlists, or saved playlists for all sorts of reasons.

how can one not want this?

28 years ago now my kids were off to college and i jumped headlong into the high end. maybe the biggest single factor of learning for me was reading the backs of Lp's, even better the CD booklets (which had much more info in them), and learning about artists, and hifi magazines music reviews. as a 60's Rock n' Roll guy, it quickly expanded my musical landscape and allowed me to learn jazz, blues, and eventually classical. now i'm 70% classical. it was a great amount of effort expended. streaming is a much much better.....easier.......process.

i realize some pass on streaming, but it seems fundamental to the hobby to my views. YMMV.

You are spot on!