when i mention heavy hitters and serious conversations my meaning has little to do with the price of gear. it can peripherally be associated with high dollar gear, but is more about serious system building intent and knowledge about and hunger to explore performance boundaries. where the best possible music reproduction can be found, the best possible approaches. i respect that it might seem to be about only big bucks but it's just not.
some of our most involved members have relatively modest costing systems, or no system. but their passion and knowledge is heavy hitting. their depth of knowledge and decades long efforts to be seriously involved in the hobby and this forum carries the energy forward and is what the forum is all about. it's what the observers from the outside value and what is unique to WBF. we have a lot of contributors who have their own unique voice.
sure; there are members who do have very expensive systems and play at the tip top. but that is not the value of the forum, just part of the bigger picture.
I would add - many folks with high $ systems have vast years of experience (component over component climbing the ladder) to reach the level they're at. It's not about snobbery, it's about a collective experience to help folks make as informed decisions as possible for best audio experiences.
MMmmmmm. Not sure I am buying it. Not fully, There are some. But so many just buy the next upgrade because they can. They believe it is better. And they yarp very loud about how great it is. Most probably never tuned what they had to get the most from it. There are some who do, don't get me wrong. I would simply argue, if you looked across 100 post on someone saying something is better, 85% plus times its going to be the higher $$ unit. And that leads to the intent of my original comment in post 97. The industry says ITS BETTER. Its a lot more, but the heavens will open. For about a year, maybe 2, then you have to upgrade again because the last version was not all we said. It could be improved upon. And we did just that. So hop on the merry go round and upgrade upgrade upgrade.
I would add - many folks with high $ systems have vast years of experience (component over component climbing the ladder) to reach the level they're at.
Or they were just caught in upgrades and trade ins and learned nothing along the way from their beginning position except what the costlier component in the same approach does. One very intelligent thread was written on the topic
Or they were just caught in upgrades and trade ins and learned nothing along the way from their beginning position except what the costlier component in the same approach does. One very intelligent thread was written on the topic
maybe, but also had an elitist and smugness factor too. not a fan of labels and thinking that tries to marginalize particular groups of users. but realize some like that. it was a polarizing, silo building thread.
maybe, but also had an elitist and smugness factor too. not a fan of labels and thinking that tries to marginalize particular groups of users. but realize some like that.
your approach of using 'shame' to get results is just not a good long term method IMHO. yes; it does serve the high efficiency/SET silo/tribe/crowd well.
maybe, but also had an elitist and smugness factor too. not a fan of labels and thinking that tries to marginalize particular groups of users. but realize some like that. it was a polarizing, silo building thread.
Indeed. Well, if you get someone as polite as JackD201 opposing you, you're not off to a good start. See also his longer post on page 2 of that thread.
your approach of using 'shame' to get results is just not a good long term method IMHO. yes; it does serve the high efficiency/SET silo/tribe/crowd well.
your approach of using 'shame' to get results is just not a good long term method IMHO. yes; it does serve the high efficiency/SET silo/tribe/crowd well.
When you have someone as polite as Peter oppose you on some threads, and you are on the same side with someone like microstrip…lol… we can go on, thought you might have more substance than that in a debate
When you have someone as polite as Peter oppose you on some threads, and you are on the same side with someone like microstrip…lol… we can go on, thought you might have more substance than that in a debate
