Correct. Ron is looking at the preamps in isolation, not in the context of the rest of the system without which the preamps can not make a sound. To take his "non-partisan" certainty of the claim seriously, we need to know the context in which the "observable fact" was "subjectively impressed" upon the listener. And was it presenting pop girl playing guitar on an '80s recording?
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Correct. Ron is looking at the preamps in isolation, not in the context of the rest of the system without which the preamps can not make a sound. To take his "non-partisan" certainty of the claim seriously, we need to know the context in which the "observable fact" was "subjectively impressed" upon the listener. And was it presenting pop girl playing guitar on an '80s recording?
Why would you run the phono directly when you can connect it via the Gryphon woofersTry running your Io balanced directly.
I think there is ample proof that Aries Cerat amps, at least the TriodeFet models, do a very good job with Clarisys speakers.
Hahaha,
Bonzo your cognitive dissonance and ill conceived chat is getting beyond ridiculous, a true Bovine zen master
105db
Flat impedance
Everything aligned
Complex phase corrections.
Help …
Bonzo , Try comparing the SS amps on the same loudspeakers for a change, put your SET on the Clarysis , BTW which actually do have a flat impedance curve unlike the others ,
Compare report ..!
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With solid state gear sometimes the load is greater when the circuit is off.
The Clarisys speakers I've seen are easy to drive. 7.5 Ohms and rated 90 dB; effectively in most rooms operating as if they are 96 dB. Depending on your room size and the competence of the amplifier you might only need 50 Watts.
Above discussion that stated from Boulder and Lamm was not referring to Clarisys but general resolution read again
And I think it was about preamps and their relative level of resolution.
Ron: “For example, I love the sound of the four box Lamm preamp, but it does not have the resolution of the Boulder 3010. I don't consider this to be a subjective impression. I consider this to be a fact observable by any non-partisan.”
I am curios to learn how such a direct comparison was made, the system context, and how Ron reached his conclusion to make such a claim.
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^that^ is a good point.
The higher distortion amps can sound more rrsoloving as. The harmonics sort of outline things with texts/sharpie.
It is not necessarily right, but a lot of people like those distortions.
Is it?
Out of curiosity, have you heard the amps mentioned by Ron or otherwise do you have any reason to believe he would be fooled by such crude gimmicks?
He mentioned 1/2 dozen amps…
But I thought we were talking in the context of SET amps.
How would he be fooled?
- Few of the have measurements and distortion spectra, so there is no metrics and facts to fool him.
- Many people like the distortion, and are they all fooled too/as-well?
How is it a gimmick?
It is part of the design, and all amps have some distortion, so pick your spectral context.
Why is this cognitive dissonance?Hahaha,
Bonzo your cognitive dissonance and ill conceived chat is getting beyond ridiculous, a true Bovine zen master
105db
Flat impedance
Everything aligned
Complex phase corrections.
Help …
Bonzo , Try comparing the SS amps on the same loudspeakers for a change, put your SET on the Clarysis , BTW which actually do have a flat impedance curve unlike the others ,
Compare report ..!
Wouldn't basic electrical theory say high efficiency, flat impedance, physical alignment instead of crossover alignment of phase/timing result in less loss of detail in the signal chain.
Yes -- I don't believe in spending as much as possible just to placate audiophilia nervosa.
I am waiting for my high-gain Incito S which Stavros is cooking up presently.
yes
When amplifiers are natively single-ended I do not believe in using balanced connections and cables.Try running your Io balanced directly.
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The Hegel P30A has an output impedance of about 830 ohms, significantly more than the 50 ohm output impedance of the Incito S. IF the preamp sees a load from the Gryphon woofer towers even when they are off, this might explain the hardness that Robbes heard through the Gryphon woofer tower through-put.
Psychoacoustic studies have shown that most humans have a preferred spectral content and it’s not because of euphony or outlines with sharpies. It has to do with how out ear/brain has evolved to deal with such sounds from the natural world and what we are insensitive to and what we are hypersensitive to.
I was referring to your comment that distortion could be perceived as more resolution (which you explain is "not necessarily right").
Saying this necessarily implies that you can make the difference between "real resolution" and "fake resolution". So if you can, why couldn't Ron? Think about it... It is simple logic!
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