Zellaton and my ascent to Soulution

[KeithR]

I am not sure what you’re implying here . First of all, Mike is allowed to do whatever he wants with whatever gear he chooses . He has had more top gear than most people on this forum. For decades he’s built his reference sound system down to the details . I’ve been to many rooms and his is top notch. So when he makes big decisions like changing amplifiers we should all pay attention. No one is strong arming him one way or another . He’s a purist , chasing the perfect sound .
I know nothing of the fiscal considerations , nor do I care . He’s plainly sharing his journey with us .
You don’t have to like it or agree , but don’t insinuate any BS back deals .
You’re more than welcome to
Try 717 and stellavox too if you can afford it.
If you can’t , then just dream about it, like the rest of us.

i never said Mike M is a bad person or doesn't care about audio. I'm just questioning the convenient deals being had on this forum with a brand new $150k product from a forum sponsor. and he definitely is a marketing mouthpiece for AudioArts.

what I can or can't afford has nothing to do with the subject.

 

[KeithR]

Asked and answered.

Stellavox IDEM Amplifier: Initial Review and Listening Impressions

Having lived with various Soulution components for over a year - including the 511 stereo amplifier and the flagship 727 and 757 preamplifiers, I have a solid grasp of the Soulution house sound. I agree with the consensus of reviews: Soulution delivers lifelike detail, exceptional speed, and...

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didn't answer the question, really.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

So how did Mike M return a $240k set of SOTA, new amps in the US weeks after introduction and end up with a pair of $150k Stellavox without losing his shirt? This would be at least a $50k loss for most audiophiles. Let me guess why…

fair question....but wrong guess. read about what happened with PK. he also returned the 717's. ordered a year prior. why aren't you calling him out? not as Machiavellian as you are seeing it. not saying the whole story is presented.

 

[Kvali1]

i never said Mike M is a bad person or doesn't care about audio. I'm just questioning the convenient deals being had on this forum with a brand new $150k product from a forum sponsor. and he definitely is a marketing mouthpiece for AudioArts.

what I can or can't afford has nothing to do with the subject.

I don’t think it’s super complicated , many dealers will let you demo pieces , if you like it then buy it , and if you wish you can write reviews online . If something new comes out and you trial it again and you like it better , many dealers will take previous unit back and sell you new unit. Early in my journey I had Sabrina x in my living room for three months , I loved them, my dealer then brought over Sasha daws, I loved them more , he took the Sabrina’s and left me with the Sasha’s . It’s not complicated . And if I had been writing reviews back then I would have gushed about the Sabrina’s and then the Sasha’s . Do I need to spell out how much money my delta was with every upgrade I make ?

 

[Steve Williams]

Keith, we've known each other for over 20 years but honestly if this place rubs you the wrong way, perhaps you should find a home where things are different . I feel bad you see it this way but your posts lately are nothing more than filled with animosity . Think about it. There are plenty of forums audio related. where Im sure you would feel more comfortable.

 

[Silvertone45]

I feel like I have whiplash. Why did all of the touting of the Soulution 717 amplifier disappear, replaced by an amplifier which no one has heard, made by Stellavox, a company which has never made amplifiers?

Did this ever really get answered?

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Did this ever really get answered?

i have another question. You joined in Feb, never any info about yourself, and only posted on this thread since. every time a question or comment about Soulution. so now bringing back Ron's crap-stirring question seems a bit too much.........of something.

OTOH i agree that we all hope the 717 interest gets going again. by all accounts a great sounding amp. it's up to owners of the amp to talk about it. i suppose Soulution needs to deliver some product to have some feedback. i know a few people were about to take delivery of a 717 at one point. does anyone have one they are listening to now? or even one on the way? what do they think? this is not about Stellavox, it's about Soulution experiences and people wanting to talk about it. cannot blame others for that not happening. it's on Soulution and their customers.

instead of Ron's question, that is the one that is reasonable.

maybe they are talking about the 717 on other threads or forums?

 

[Perfect sense Audio]

We've got the 717 here since about a month back where I've ordered a 727 pre yesterday which is ready to ship from stock.

No issues here - quite the opposite

/ Marcus

 

[Mike Lavigne]

We've got the 717 here since about a month back where I've ordered a 727 pre yesterday which is ready to ship from stock.

No issues here - quite the opposite

/ Marcus

i talked to a friend in the UK yesterday who has heard the Soulution 717 in his system and really liked it.

 

[TheAudioAssociation]

Hello Mike! Our 717 should be here shortly to join our mighty 727. We also have a pair of Gauder Akustik DARC 100's delivering today. Should be a fun holiday season!

 

[John T]

As having the 727; With the 717's I would think this is a must...A friend of mine has 717's/727, with the M7's and he is pretty captivated...

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Hello Mike! Our 717 should be here shortly to join our mighty 727.

We also have a pair of Gauder Akustik DARC 100's delivering today. Should be a fun holiday season!

Congrats on getting the Gauder. two of my favorite rooms at 2024 Axpona were the Gauder Akustik/Soulution rooms. my pics here and here.

 

[bonzo75]

Congrats on getting the Gauder. two of my favorite rooms at 2024 Axpona were the Gauder Akustik/Soulution rooms. my pics here and here.

Yeah Gauder with Vitus at Munich used to be good.

 

[vinyl_mike]

Did this ever really get answered?

I am the OP of this thread and can only speak for my own experience. As I explained previously, my decision-making process was straightforward. After a significant wait, the 717s were delivered, and around the same time, Stellavox introduced the IDEMs. I had the opportunity to listen to both.

In my system, and for my listening preferences, I found the Stellavox to be superior, and I shared that conclusion with the forum. That said, this does not diminish the fact that the 717s are world-class amplifiers and, for many listeners, will be their amplifier of choice.

There is no intrigue or conspiracy - just a simple and transparent process. As for why others may not be posting about the 717s, I cannot speculate; I can only speak for myself.

 

[Ron Resnick]

I am the OP of this thread and can only speak for my own experience. As I explained previously, my decision-making process was straightforward. After a significant wait, the 717s were delivered, and around the same time, Stellavox introduced the IDEMs. I had the opportunity to listen to both.

In my system, and for my listening preferences, I found the Stellavox to be superior, and I shared that conclusion with the forum. That said, this does not diminish the fact that the 717s are world-class amplifiers and, for many listeners, will be their amplifier of choice.

There is no intrigue or conspiracy - just a simple and transparent process. As for why others may not be posting about the 717s, I cannot speculate; I can only speak for myself.

Thank you for explaining, Mike!

 

[Perfect sense Audio]

I am the OP of this thread and can only speak for my own experience. As I explained previously, my decision-making process was straightforward. After a significant wait, the 717s were delivered, and around the same time, Stellavox introduced the IDEMs. I had the opportunity to listen to both.

In my system, and for my listening preferences, I found the Stellavox to be superior, and I shared that conclusion with the forum. That said, this does not diminish the fact that the 717s are world-class amplifiers and, for many listeners, will be their amplifier of choice.

There is no intrigue or conspiracy - just a simple and transparent process. As for why others may not be posting about the 717s, I cannot speculate; I can only speak for myself.

Wouldn't a proper comparison be a pair of 717's in mono configuration to the Stellavox mono's?

 

[Ron Resnick]

Hello Mike! Our 717 should be here shortly to join our mighty 727. We also have a pair of Gauder Akustik DARC 100's delivering today. Should be a fun holiday season!

Hello Ed!

That should be a great combination!

 

[Emorante]

As having the 727; With the 717's I would think this is a must...A friend of mine has 717's/727, with the M7's and he is pretty captivated...

here too we have 727 and 717 with plural evo and they are wonderful, I come from Burmester, accuphase and fm acoustics, with acapella high violon.

 

[John T]

here too we have 727 and 717 with plural evo and they are wonderful, I come from Burmester, accuphase and fm acoustics, with acapella high violon.

I only have the 727 with Gryphon Mephisto Solos, I don't have the 717's. I didn't phrase it very coherently/clearly...

 

[Legolas]

I feel like I have whiplash. Why did all of the touting of the Soulution 717 amplifier disappear, replaced by an amplifier which no one has heard, made by Stellavox, a company which has never made amplifiers?

Here we go again, trying to find a story where there his non. Why don't you ask Gideon in a PM instead if getting off on one bashing a sponsor again. Seems like a pattern? Also seems hypocritical by an owner of WBF who is a dealer on there side, if we start looking at the details here.