Keep in mind that they are recordings in an audio show, so they are not optimal but they are, IMO, much more interesting than iphone recordings which basically make everything sound the same (slight exaggeration). With higher quality microphones (and recorders) the strengths and weaknesses of the systems/rooms are obvious.
Videos of Acoustically-Coupled Audio Recordings
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Keep in mind that they are recordings in an audio show, so they are not optimal but they are, IMO, much more interesting than iphone recordings which basically make everything sound the same (slight exaggeration). With higher quality microphones (and recorders) the strengths and weaknesses of the systems/rooms are obvious.
Some of it sounds bad probably because the speakers and/or the room sound bad! Take the AudioNote/Kondo room playing the Art Pepper track. Colored sound, saxophone sounds nasal, the whole thing is muddy.... At the opposite spectrum B&M is thin and shouty. Devote Fidelity is a similar type of sound to AudioNote. Wilson Audio's Take Five totally lacks finesse... Etc...
they don’t sound the same at all. quite different. when I covered the 2019 show with my phone people pretty much provided the same feedback I thought in the room. That is what converted me over to videos. That was the first.
i did take more than one video of a room, from the centre seat, often playing classical. In fact, three different rooms had the same track recorded.
so, it is just not videos with phone or mic, but if you take a video from one side of the room, playing poor music, it is going to sound poor. The track you record, length of time you record, enough to give the attributes and the musical message, all matters and a phone is sufficient. I heard sophisticated mic videos of those rooms and they made many or rooms sound great.
Well,to give an example, everything Thundersnow posted sound the same to my ears!
Good mics don't make the room sound great.
older phone, but rooms don’t sound same
Munich 2019 Video Coverage – Zero Distortion
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older phone, but rooms don’t sound same
Munich 2019 Video Coverage – Zero Distortion
Of course rooms don't sound the same, that was my point.
Vis a vis your video, they are better, but there is still has a "sameness" to it, a little thin sounding, and very far from the TotalDac videos' sound quality. Sorry...
The mic position changes the sound, but I'll take a studio quality mic in a lesser position anytime over an iphone in the sweet spot.
oh I totally agree it is far sonically from Total Dac quality. That’s not the point. The point is you can use either to evaluate we equally
if you want to create a playlist where you play good sounding music over YouTube, you need total dac quality recording. To evaluate, both are equally fine. And don’t buy on either, just use them as a guide to shortlist.
in fact too good sounding videos do not help me evaluate. They are sonically all pleasing to listen to, unlike in the room
I think you are confusing the sound quality of the recording and our evaluation of the system recorded
I pointed out how the TotalDAC recording was much more revealing and led me to conclude that few systems were pleasing. So I would definitely not say that better quality recording equipment makes everything sound good. It may in fact be the opposite sometimes.
Anyway, we can agree to disagree! I was happy to find the TotalDac videos. I'm not going to be purchasing anything based on those, they just satisfy my curiosity more than any iphone recording probably would.
This youtuber uses a Samsung S20 I believe, which does seem able to give an idea as to whether a system can deliver emotionally or not:
I don't know about "emotion"... That is not what I am looking for on a YouTube video.
This YouTuber provides good information in his comments. I liked his enthusiasm for the baffleless IO Design speakers.The quality of the video is decent. You can get a good idea of the difference with a typical boxed speaker...
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I received the Shure MV88. Which settings do people apply for recording the sound coming out of two speakers of a stereo system?
Don't know about others but this is the most natural / musical setting that I'm aware of. I also set the gain to either 24db or 25.5db and then blast away.
Interesting. I just read somewhere the other day a phrase that goes something like this...
"There is no such thing as disinformation, misinformation, etc. It's all just information and it's up to you and your critical thinking to discern whether or not the informaiton has value."
Or something like that. Regardless, I think there's potential value to that.
Regardless of the designer, speaker designs are open to criticism as much as anything else, right?
I've posted several a few months back in the oomph, menacing thread. Actually, I think a more fun challenge is our desire for our playback presentations to more fully engulf / capture our attention. Almost like achieving a level of enjoyment such that we've no choice but to subconsciously stop trying to listen analytically and just allow ourselves to be more completely immersed by what we hear.
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Sure why not call all speaker systems full range as to not exclude any of them.
A speaker with a single driver (or multiple identical drivers) is using that single driver to cover the full range of the speaker. End of story.
You could. But such a claim would probably be labeled as misinformation if not downright disinformation. Well..., if you still believe in such things.
A full range speaker, should be er full range.
Full range drivers are not usually full range.
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