Videos of Acoustically-Coupled Audio Recordings

[PeterA]

Out of curiosity, would you agree that this sounds "natural"? You can simply listen to it with your phone if you want to.

I like the sound of this recording. Great music and even on my iPhone catching it during lunch it sounds good. Good tone and dynamics. Great energy and liveliness. I’ll have to listen to better playback to determine how natural it sounds but I can do that later this evening. Thanks for introducing this great music.

The level of noise does not bother me that much.

 

[PeterA]

there is nothing privy about the fact he did not like SME tables, Magico speakers, the cables you had before, and what he thinks of Opus

you are not privy to our conversations. Your post implied stuff that did not occur. I was there, you were not. Do you want me to confirm something that David did not tell me. You should reference all of these posts where he shares his thoughts on gear unsolicited.

 

[bonzo75]

Out of curiosity, would you agree that this sounds "natural"? You can simply listen to it with your phone if you want to.

I listen to vinyl rips a lot over YT and love them. There many people ripping orginals, classical. They can have surface noise so like Ron that does not bother me. Vinyl rips over YT sound extremely good, I play entire concerts back to back.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Vinyl rips over YT sound extremely good, I play entire concerts back to back.

Why don't you just get a high-end audio system, and join us in the hobby?

 

[bonzo75]

Why don't you just get a high-end audio system, and join us in the hobby?

There are very few systems where I can listen to vinyl which I can on YT. And to buy so many records would cost a few hundred thousand. As you know, I separate listening to music from the hobby, think there is some overlap, that's all.

 

[microstrip]

anyone reading my sublime sound thread or visiting me during those years will understand I enjoyed that system a lot.

In fact. I enjoyed you thread, we shared some common equipment. You were much more enthusiastic than now and although we had different opinions there was no bitterness in it.

I spent a lot of time listening to it and sharing it with others and I learned a lot by experimenting with it. Those were not lost years. Everything I do is my responsibility.

Curious that many times you are refer to learning. What did you learn? I only managed to learn something on stereo reading books or from experts. Then I understood the hobby. Until then it was just experimentation, enjoying music, gear and meals, and reading about technology.

I made many recordings of that system and shared them and welcomed feedback.

Apologies, never cared about their sound, just watched the images with interest.

 

[PeterA]

In fact. I enjoyed you thread, we shared some common equipment. You were much more enthusiastic than now and although we had different opinions there was no bitterness in it.

I think our different opinions are even more different now. My enthusiasm has shifted from gear to music.

Curious that many times you are refer to learning. What did you learn? I only managed to learn something on stereo reading books or from experts. Then I understood the hobby. Until then it was just experimentation, enjoying music, gear and meals, and reading about technology.

curious our learning is from opposite directions. While you were learning by reading and listening to experts, I was learning by listening and comparing live music to the sound of my audio system. I decided to stop reading because it was leading me in the wrong direction.

 

[the sound of Tao]

Thanks! Care to record the Keith Don't Go track or So What, posted earlier? They seem particularly hard to get right.

Thanks Rexp, but Keith don’t go on my stereo… ever… … lol tbh I can’t fit in all the music I want to listen to so avoid listening to music that I don’t really want to listen to… I’m playing full time for team musicphile these days. Listening even to good music gets in the way of the time you can spend listening to great music… it’s a bit like drinking instant coffee, there’s just no room for it in your life when you have espresso all around you.

 

[microstrip]

I think our different opinions are even more different now. My enthusiasm has shifted from gear to music.

Curiously mine never shifted. Both go in parallel. Speaking about music, do you own the VTL recording Louis by Louis Verdieu, recorded by David Manley? The LP is fabulous.

curious our learning is from opposite directions. While you were learning by reading and listening to experts, I was learning by listening and comparing live music to the sound of my audio system. I decided to stop reading because it was leading me in the wrong direction.

IMO just comparing to live music the sound of your system is the best way to self indulgence and fossilization. No system can approach life music, we will focus on a few relevant details. Some will train to listen to real music like they listen to their systems. Only listening to other systems, different and of better performance than ours we know what is possible in stereo reproduction - the BEST! BTW, understanding your objectives is an excellent way to success.

Surely reading leads us in the bad direction if we read the bad writings or do not understand them. Can I suggest you to follow the advice of Karen Summer on writings, selecting what to read?

 

[tima]

Read well my Post #1,649, especially Section 6.

It is dishonest of you to latch onto, and to repeat, Peter's mischaracterizations when I am telling you the facts.

Never mentioned your name. I was talking about David in my post.

 

[tima]

Sorry Peter, I don't for a second believe someone who has read David's posts regularly plus has chatted with him does not know what he thinks of the systems and components I mentioned.

What's your point Kedar? Just trying to stir up sh*t? Do you have some personal grudge with David?

 

[the sound of Tao]

And sometimes great performances can be of material that makes me want to barf. That the performance causes an emotional response is, I suppose, desired. But in my case all I felt was a growing anxiety.

Compared to the boy on the talent show — simply moved by the beauty of it all. Hopefully I’ll get through the pearly gates when the time comes, that is the sound i expect from the angels. But even that would grow old i’m afraid and i’d be looking for the best blues bar in heaven.

A great performance of a work you really don’t like is obviously not what we should subject ourselves to… that would be a form self harming

Theres plenty of genres and composers that I cant listen to even if it’s a version of their work generally recognised as the best performance as it’s no use if it’s music that you just don’t resonate to… no one here would ever judge anyone on their taste in gear or music surely

 

[tima]

IMO just comparing to live music the sound of your system is the best way to self indulgence and fossilization. No system can approach life music, we will focus on a few relevant details. Some will train to listen to real music like they listen to their systems. Only listening to other systems, different and of better performance than ours we know what is possible in stereo reproduction - the BEST

It comes to a point where you are satisfied with the sound of your stereo for listening to music, stop analyzing it, find satisfaction in its realism and your interest turns back to why you got into the hobby in the first place -- the music.

 

[PeterA]

Surely reading leads us in the bad direction if we read the bad writings or do not understand them. Can I suggest you to follow the advice of Karen Summers on writings, selecting what to read?

I do not know who Karen Summers is.

 

[microstrip]

It comes to a point where you are satisfied with the sound of your stereo for listening to music, stop analyzing it, find satisfaction in its realism and your interest turns back to why you got into the hobby in the first place -- the music.

I think that this discussion - music or gear - is a false elitist dichotomy. We lead both in parallel - the final decision to stop changing gear has little to do with our musical satisfaction. It is a personal decision, based on many other personnel aspects, such as other interests, finances or available time. Stereo carries an intrinsic experimentation and education. If we desire, it is a never ending hobby.

 

[microstrip]

I do not know who Karen Summers is.

Karen Summer, apologies for the typo.

 

[PeterA]

Karen Summer, apologies for the typo.

I read her essays on WBF. They are excellent. And I talk to her about sailing. She has good taste in boats.

 

[tima]

I think that this discussion - music or gear - is a false elitist dichotomy.

Interesting you say 'elitist dichotomy' presumably suggesting the interest in music is a snobbish or higher calling. I was enjoying music in my life long before having a fancy stereo. In the real world music comes first for me. If you find it elitist to be satisfied with one's stereo or turn one's budget to music, that's hardly an epithet.

 

[Rexp]

There are definitely better recordings out there, but I find it very enjoyable. I chose it because I own the LP and know there are no CD versions available to compare.

Does the surface noise alter the "natural" aspect of the recording ? I don't think so.

If we can say that an iphone recording of speakers sounds "natural", then I think we can say the same of this one.

A good vinyl rip will sound natural over Youtube but the original recording has to be great to sound as realistic as this:

 

[microstrip]

Interesting you say 'elitist dichotomy' presumably suggesting the interest in music is a snobbish or higher calling. I was enjoying music in my life long before having a fancy stereo. In the real world music comes first for me. If you find it elitist to be satisfied with one's stereo or turn one's budget to music, that's hardly an epithet.

No, please refrain your imagination and read my post. I was just addressing the dichotomy not the music or gear separately.

IMO answering on "presumable suggestions" is a waste of time. Sorry, I will not answer on "if ..."