Natural Sound

[hopkins]

Easy. Different goals and values, some say preferences and tastes.

How do you explain it?

Not to repeat myself, but… In light of the topic of your thread, it is easy to conceive that people having the same goals (and similar experience of live sound) could choose different systems because no system comes close to reproducing that experience of live sound (and this is where preferences for lesser evils come in to play).

Once you accept that, then what is the point of insisting on live music as a reference? You could simply state what you enjoy listening to.

 

[microstrip]

(...) I was curious about your claim that he never referred to live music (...)

Sorry, when did I claim it?

 

[PeterA]

Not to repeat myself, but… In light of the topic of your thread, it is easy to conceive that people having the same goals (and similar experience of live sound) could choose different systems because no system comes close to reproducing that experience of live sound (and this is where preferences for lesser evils come in to play).

Once you accept that, then what is the point of insisting on live music as a reference? You could simply state what you enjoy listening to.

I enjoy my system, and my enjoyment is based on how natural is the experience of listening to music in my room.

I think where we differ is accepting your premise that “no system comes close to reproducing the experience of live sound”. I simply don’t accept your premise based on my own experience listening to a few specific systems and live music. You might respond that it is a matter of degree, and to that I would agree.

 

[PeterA]

Sorry, when did I claim it?

You wrote this: “ In many of his (Lamm’s) interviews I have read he never addressed using live music as a reference.

 

[microstrip]

You wrote this: “ In many of his (Lamm’s) interviews I have read he never addressed using live music as a reference.

You are partially quoting. The sentence had a start:

" Vladimir Lamm called "natural" a type of amplified sound that followed a particular type of hearing mechanism of the human ear that he had studied and developed. In many of his interviews I have read he never addressed using live music as a reference."


For me it was clear , but thanks, I will edit to make it clear:
“ In many of his (Lamm’s) interviews I have read he never addressed using live music as his reference."

As I said many times, IMO using live music as reference is essentially a marketing claim, but can be helpful to develop individual preferences and can be gratifying to listeners.

 

[PeterA]

You are partially quoting. The sentence had a start:

" Vladimir Lamm called "natural" a type of amplified sound that followed a particular type of hearing mechanism of the human ear that he had studied and developed. In many of his interviews I have read he never addressed using live music as a reference."


For me it was clear , but thanks, I will edit to make it clear:
“ In many of his (Lamm’s) interviews I have read he never addressed using live music as his reference."

As I said many times, IMO using live music as reference is essentially a marketing claim, but can be helpful to develop individual preferences and can be gratifying to listeners.

Well, clearly you and I disagree on this topic. Tim, Al, Brad, I, and others all mention listening to live music as a reference and guide informing choices. And we are not trying to market anything.

Vladimir Lamm did clearly mention live music in his interviews. He may not have mentioned it as a guide for him during his design process and maybe that is what you mean, but he certainly mentioned the importance of listening to live music as a reference or guide for listeners when assessing audio gear. He clearly mentions it in the interview I quoted.