AS good as the Devore 0/96 are, I found they were no match for the c.80k YG Sonja. For that matter, they didn’t even beat my Rockport Avior with the RELs.
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You didn't hear them with the right amps - I think you heard them with Vitus. Also depends what you are listening for.
Fyi, I have one demo left in the Avantgarde Duo Mezzo (which effectively replaced the Cessaro Wagner in my original 6). That is going to wrap it up for quite some time. KeithR is all demo'd out.
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I came. I saw. I heard. I concurred none of these are worth spending over the devores I currently have.
I am puzzled why John Devore went in the short four box direction rather than in the taller Gibbon X in a midrange - tweeter - midrange direction. He could have used the same drivers he is using in the four box set-up. And a tall speaker would have achieved height and scale as well.
Of course he could have done this, and he consciously chose not to, so I am very curious to learn why he preferred the short four box design.
While I am at it let me suggest another project for John. (
I know.)
How about taking the four box set-up he has right now and making each box taller? He could have four woofers in each woofer column, and a true midrange - midrange - tweeter design in the main box! This could be a near SOTA system (excepting only heroically heavy cabinets) competing with the SOTA four tower designs from YG, Verity, etc.
Of course he could have done this, and he consciously chose not to, so I am very curious to learn why he preferred the short four box design.
While I am at it let me suggest another project for John. (
I know.)How about taking the four box set-up he has right now and making each box taller? He could have four woofers in each woofer column, and a true midrange - midrange - tweeter design in the main box! This could be a near SOTA system (excepting only heroically heavy cabinets) competing with the SOTA four tower designs from YG, Verity, etc.
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I am puzzled why John Devore went in the short four box direction rather than in the taller Gibbon X in a midrange - tweeter - midrange direction. He could have used the same drivers he is using in the four box set-up. And a tall speaker would have achieved height and scale as well.
Of course he could have done this, and he consciously chose not to, so I am very curious to learn why he preferred the short four box design.
While I am at it let me suggest another project for John. (
How about taking the four box set-up he has right now and making each box taller? He could have four woofers in each woofer column, and a true midrange - midrange - tweeter design in the main box! This could be a near SOTA system (excepting only heroically heavy cabinets) competing with the SOTA four tower designs from YG, Verity, etc.
Why does it matter if they are taller?
I am puzzled why John Devore went in the short four box direction rather than in the taller Gibbon X in a midrange - tweeter - midrange direction. He could have used the same drivers he is using in the four box set-up. And a tall speaker would have achieved height and scale as well.
Of course he could have done this, and he consciously chose not to, so I am very curious to learn why he preferred the short four box design.
While I am at it let me suggest another project for John. (
How about taking the four box set-up he has right now and making each box taller? He could have four woofers in each woofer column, and a true midrange - midrange - tweeter design in the main box! This could be a near SOTA system (excepting only heroically heavy cabinets) competing with the SOTA four tower designs from YG, Verity, etc.
It's not really competing with those other brands. The orangutan, at least, is a very different sound, and those who like one might not like the other. The O96 also seems a different design to his gibbon X (which I have not yet heard) and is priced higher. I don't think more or less height has anything to do with it. They look like AN Es which actually sound different. And the AN Es have a massive price range just by changing copper to silver and the cross over.
Both AN E and devore when set up right achieve a disappearance, flow, tone, ease, coherence, and transparency to recordings. The soundstage comes as they disappear leaving a musical stage. You don't really buy these because you want the best highs, best mids like stats or ribbons, or great bass. All imo
I actually think the genes go back as far as the earlier Snells
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I wish you'd stop playing amateur speaker designer, especially with something you've never heard. I'd also point out that he specifically wanted a 98db efficient speaker, something none of your preferred speakers achieve. This is SOTA to John Devore - he told me that in person.
FWIW Ron, I've spoken to Sean of Zu, and he is skeptical that D'Appolito is the ideal. He actually feels it creates more problems than it solves. Not a borderline opinion w him.
I guess Keith is for real when he says it wasn't another AARP meeting.
I think that it's not definitively optimal to place bass top and bottom, and this introduces compromises (v hard to do well, and can scupper rest of the design).
Bass needs it's own specific solution, not to be dictated by an arbitrary rule.
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