Here’s what I’m looking for...

tony22

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I’ve been streaming music from a PC to a DAC since the early days of EAC and the original Squeezebox, so I’ve been in this lower end side of the world for quite some time. While I currently stream to my PS Audio DS DAC over its Bridge II interface, it is limiting in some ways. I’d like to change that.

What I’m looking for is a good bang for the buck network streamer that will let me run everything into my DAC via I2S over HDMI. The device must have that interface natively - no add-on to get that. I looked at one device but saw (IIUC) that it limited the resolution of Qobuz data at its output. I don’t want that. It must provide at its I2S output the full resolution of whatever is going into it. It should have the ability to stream all the stuff that’s out there, including Internet radio, either through its own interface or something like LMS (although if I have to go that route I’ll have to get some sort of Android device, since it’s not supported on iOS anymore :mad:). My own music has been stored and managed for years on an 8 drive Qnap RAID NAS, so I really don’t need on board storage. I recognize that will likely be sonically superior, but as my primary means of listening are still transport for digital, plus analog, I’m willing to make that compromise in the interest of a quality (still quality) budget solution. I also don’t need a drive or a ripping capability. A single box solution is preferred, and also preferably running off a good linear supply. I’m not able to jump into the pricey end of this world just yet, so I’m hoping for something that will get me into things without too much sonic penalty. Used devices are always an option.
 
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_Alchemist_

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Hi,
You should check out this french brand. I've had previous class D amps and preamps/dac from them and it's working very very well for the price.
The guy is a very very good engineer and has implemented serious technologies in his products.
https://www.3d-lab-av.com/nano-network-transport-signature.html#
The architecture is very open too, you can do anything with it
This is the signature version but he has cheaper models too
 

tony22

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You should check out this french brand. I've had previous class D amps and preamps/dac from them and it's working very very well for the price.

Sorry for the late reply. Thanks @_Alchemist_. Looks very interesting but at the moment I can’t seem to figure out how to translate the web page to English on my iPad.


I’ve actually been looking at this one. A few reviews out there. Seems essentially to be a custom Raspberry Pi based device.
 

_Alchemist_

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Sorry for the late reply. Thanks @_Alchemist_. Looks very interesting but at the moment I can’t seem to figure out how to translate the web page to English on my iPad.



I’ve actually been looking at this one. A few reviews out there. Seems essentially to be a custom Raspberry Pi based device.
With chrome you can paste the link and translate the page. Not sure on iPad but on MacBook it works
 

tony22

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Yep. Had to use Chrome. That did the trick. Looks impressive. I wonder if there are any reviews or listening tests out there?
 

tony22

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If you have links to these reviews please pass them along. The Mano looks good, but I’m wondering if its performance is up to what I’d be hoping for.
 

gipe

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If you have links to these reviews please pass them along. The Mano looks good, but I’m wondering if its performance is up to what I’d be hoping for.
Hello,

The Mano is a good streamer with excellent value for money. I had it for two years with great satisfaction on Qobuz in I2s.

The current model is a bit better than the one I had. Jos de Magna HiFi is very friendly and responsive. You can count on him for advice and assistance if you need it.

There is a long thread on the Mano in the independent audiophile forum (French) with google translation there should be no problem to read it. Many of us had it at the time and testify to it.

Hello,

The Mano is a good streamer with excellent value for money. I had it for two years with great satisfaction on Qobuz in I2s.

The current model is a bit better than the one I had. Jos de Magna HiFi is very friendly and responsive. You can count on him for advice and assistance if you need it.

There is a long thread on the Mano in the independent audiophile forum (French) with google translation there should be no problem to read it. Many of us had it at the time and testify to it.

 

tony22

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The Mano is a good streamer with excellent value for money. I had it for two years with great satisfaction on Qobuz in I2s.

Thank you @gipe. May I ask why you moved on to something else?
 

gipe

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Merci [USER = 13515] @gipe [/ USER]. Puis-je vous demander pourquoi vous êtes passé à autre chose?

Merci [USER = 13515] @gipe [/ USER]. Puis-je vous demander pourquoi vous êtes passé à autre chose?
J'ai mis à jour le streamer dans mon système avec un Soundaware D300 Ref.

There is à review of it in sixmoons
 

rsrzr

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Tony22 - why do you think the bridge ii is limiting? Limiting in what regards? There are so many pluses using a network connection over say USB and allows you to use a server in another room. I also have been looking at trying the I2S input but haven't found a clean solution yet. If you do and you find it better than using the bridge II input, let us know.
 

rbbert

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Don't forget that there is no industry standard for I2S over HDMI, so you would need to ensure that your streamer/server conforms to the PSAudio protocol (which several other DACs do, not sure about server/streamers)
 

tony22

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why do you think the bridge ii is limiting? Limiting in what regards?

The B-II is limited to DSD64. The DS DAC I2S input can accept (currently) DSD128, and Ted has not discounted the possibility of it being able to go further with a FW update. This makes the B-II not able to keep up with the DAC’s own capabilities.
 

rsrzr

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I'm with you, but dsd128 content is almost non-existent, at least from what I have seen. That's why I'm waiting to see what comes out, maybe a new bridge iii card will be produced. I hear its in the works but will run their own server software and not support Roon
 

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