Grandinote Mach 8 XL vs Mach 9 speakers

[abeidrov]

I don’t feel any lack of bass with Jadis. This is the best sound so far with the speakers. Briefly compared Jadis to Grandinote own Supremo amp. Grandinote is too cold compared to Jadis, but I need to do some further comparison.

 

[morricab]

Measure at the listening position, thank me later. ;-)

I do...I even listen at the listening position...who would have thought??

 

[abeidrov]

This video is recorded with iPhone. Previous videos were done with iPhone plus Shure MV88 mic. iPhone recorded much better

 

[sbo6]

I do...I even listen at the listening position...who would have thought??

Not many based on your inquiries.

How about showing the results?

 

[morricab]

Not many based on your inquiries.

How about showing the results?

What inquiries are you even talking about? Show which results?

 

[sbo6]

What inquiries are you even talking about? Show which results?

About as equally obnoxious as your preceding one.

Results = measurements where you sit.

 

[abeidrov]

 

[sbo6]

Measurements?

Also, thanks, but what is one to take away from a recording from a condenser mic digitized, reduced in quality and played back through X system?

Also, your room desperately requires room treatment along with covering or removal of all that glass and that big flat TV. You're not getting close to what this system can do without getting the room done right. Does this room have any treatment?

 

[morricab]

About as equally obnoxious as your preceding one.

Results = measurements where you sit.

Your posts are obnoxious, I have no idea what your issue is. You post your measurements if you want, I don’t think it brings much.

 

[abeidrov]

Also, thanks, but what is one to take away from a recording from a condenser mic digitized, reduced in quality and played back through X system?

Bonzo can…

 

[bonzo75]

That’s quite good.

Below is Leif’s from 3 years ago (whatever iteration he was in then)

 

[bonzo75]

Also he is playing the Sheffield, you seem to be playing London CS so Ansermet?

 

[abeidrov]

Also he is playing the Sheffield, you seem to be playing London CS so Ansermet?

Yes, London, but with Abbado.

 

[Kozak170]

I don’t feel any lack of bass with Jadis. This is the best sound so far with the speakers. Briefly compared Jadis to Grandinote own Supremo amp. Grandinote is too cold compared to Jadis, but I need to do some further comparison.

The sound in the new setup with Jadis is much better than the previous setups, based on the videos you shared. As for the Supremo or Shinai, it seems that a similar situation applies to AGs with iTron regarding Grandinote Mach speakers and their own SS amps, and most people with such high-efficiency speakers still prefer using low-power tube amps instead of SS tech. BTW, as shown in the video, if I’m guessing correctly, you switched from the transparent SC to a simpler one, which could provide a better matching for this setup.

 

[bonzo75]

I don’t feel any lack of bass with Jadis. This is the best sound so far with the speakers. Briefly compared Jadis to Grandinote own Supremo amp. Grandinote is too cold compared to Jadis, but I need to do some further comparison.

So you made no other change except replace the amp from the previous videos?

 

[Kozak170]

Also, your room desperately requires room treatment along with covering or removal of all that glass and that big flat TV. You're not getting close to what this system can do without getting the room done right. Does this room have any treatment?

I’ve noticed that Grandinote Mach speakers are surprisingly forgiving when it comes to room acoustics. Their minimalist, crossover-less design really makes a difference: no phase shifts or time distortion, so the sound stays super coherent, fast, and musical. The semi-resonance tube (S.R.T.) cabinet for bass loading also delivers tight, deep, and agile bass, and it’s less impacted by room issues compared to traditional designs.

Unlike Magico and Wilson, which use more complex crossovers and have more isolated drivers, Mach speakers are less sensitive to room nodes and reflections. The intricate crossover networks in Magico and Wilson speakers make them more vulnerable to room imperfections, so they need more meticulous room treatment to really shine. But the Grandinote Mach prioritizes musicality and natural timbre, so they still sound amazing even in untreated rooms.

 

[abeidrov]

So you made no other change except replace the amp from the previous videos?

Yes and no. The other big change is the recording method: iPhone with Shure mic vs just IPhone. Shure mic makes the sound thin and distant. Also, different SC, I now use the reincarnation of the High Fidelity cables by Rick Shultz. The cables are brand new.

 

[abeidrov]

Also, Jadis has very basic Soviet tubes):

 

[bonzo75]

Yes and no. The other big change is the recording method: iPhone with Shure mic vs just IPhone. Shure mic makes the sound thin and distant. Also, different SC, I now use the reincarnation of the High Fidelity cables by Rick Shultz. The cables are brand new.

Interesting if previous cables acted as filters to cause drive issues.

 

[sbo6]

Yes and no. The other big change is the recording method: iPhone with Shure mic vs just IPhone. Shure mic makes the sound thin and distant. Also, different SC, I now use the reincarnation of the High Fidelity cables by Rick Shultz. The cables are brand new.

So you're not using the same recording hardware, not apples to apples.