Do Mobile Fidelity Vinyl Re-issues Have a Digital Step in the Process?

[microstrip]

So customers thought they were being sold AAA Vinyl and you want to offer them a DSD file? That just adds insult to injury! They already have DSD in the record that was deceptively sold to them.

Probably you would feel insulted. However considering what we can read in hundreds of posts in other forums, IMHO most people would feel differently. Although I would prefer to get an AAA LP I know it is not possible, so I would be very happy to get the DSD256 files for each of of my MoFi digital LPs!

 

[Ian B]

I'm getting concerned that an overzealous legal takedown of MoFi is going to ruin what is left of the quality SACD marketplace.

 

[HughP3]

Probably you would feel insulted. However considering what we can read in hundreds of posts in other forums, IMHO most people would feel differently. Although I would prefer to get an AAA LP I know it is not possible, so I would be very happy to get the DSD256 files for each of of my MoFi digital LPs!

Me too, i would love to buy the DSD256 since i dont have analog

 

[Audire]

Probably you would feel insulted. However considering what we can read in hundreds of posts in other forums, IMHO most people would feel differently. Although I would prefer to get an AAA LP I know it is not possible, so I would be very happy to get the DSD256 files for each of of my MoFi digital LPs!

Respectfully, MoFi hasn’t even offered that, have they? What they could do is return everyone’s money, as I suggested in this thread long ago. However, MoFi hasn’t offered that either? What they desire you to do is to accept that you ripped off and forget about it!

 

[Audire]

Me too, i would love to buy the DSD256 since i dont have analog

You are far too trusting. How do you know they are quality SACDs? If MoFi deceived so many regarding AAA vinyl how do we know they are really doing what they claim to do on their SACDs?

 

[dminches]

Are all the other record companies that aren’t transparent and are deceitful in their marketing going to be sued too?

 

[Audire]

Are all the other record companies that aren’t transparent and are deceitful in their marketing going to be sued too?

Ask the labels - not us.

Let’s not speculate. Are any other labels misrepresenting what they sell? If so, please post some links to their deceptive advertising.

 

[dminches]

Ask the labels - not us.

Let’s not speculate. Are any other labels misrepresenting what they sell? If so, please post some links to their deceptive advertising.

there are tons. Anyone who states that the mastering is done from the original tapes and doesn’t also say it is AAA is being deceptive. This issue is not limited to MoFi by any means.

 

[Audire]

there are tons. Anyone who states that the mastering is done from the original tapes and doesn’t also say it is AAA is being deceptive. This issue is not limited to MoFi by any means.

Can you be more specific by listing three examples?

 

[microstrip]

If we want extreme transparency everyone selling vinyl sourced from digital should warn consumers that they are getting an inferior product and that a digital master is much closer to the original recording ...

 

[dminches]

Can you be more specific by listing three examples?

I just did yesterday. Craft’s issue of a live CCR concert. https://craftrecordings.com/collect...learwater-revival-at-the-royal-albert-hall-lp

 

[dminches]

6 years ago when Blue Note did their 75 anniversary series they said nothing at the time about the LPs being digitally sourced. It eventually came out but by then thousands of LPs had been purchased.

 

[Audire]

I just did yesterday. Craft’s issue of a live CCR concert. https://craftrecordings.com/collect...learwater-revival-at-the-royal-albert-hall-lp

“If” this is a digital remastered LP and they aren’t declaring it then they deserve the same as MoFi.

Any label that is using deceit to market their vinyl deserves the same!

 

[dminches]

“If” this is a digital remastered LP and they aren’t declaring it then they deserve the same as MoFi.

Any label that is using deceit to market their vinyl deserves the same!

That is my point. When Craft issues an AAA LP they are very explicit about it. This, it is my bet that this is ADA.

Many of the labels are doing the same thing. Sony almost never says how the LP has been cut.

 

[Audire]

If we want extreme transparency everyone selling vinyl sourced from digital should warn consumers that they are getting an inferior product and that a digital master is much closer to the original recording ...

I feel so very sorry for you. One day I hope you finally hear a good vinyl setup with some good records produced from the original master tapes. Until such a time though I’m sure we will continue to hear about your tales from the dark side.

 

[Audire]

That is my point. When Craft issues an AAA LP they are very explicit about it. This, it is my bet that this is ADA.

Many of the labels are doing the same thing. Sony almost never says how the LP has been cut.

Best bet isn’t evidence.

 

[dminches]

Best bet isn’t evidence.

If you want to think that MoFi is alone in this be my guest. You would be wrong.

 

[microstrip]

I feel so very sorry for you. One day I hope you finally hear a good vinyl setup with some good records produced from the original master tapes. Until such a time though I’m sure we will continue to hear about your tales from the dark side.

What is the point of changing the subject with a condescending and poor minded comment? I was just addressing digital sourced recordings in my post. FIY I own a Studer A80 and copies of master tapes, as well as many excellent fully analog sourced LPs. I know pretty well how good top analog can sound.

 

[Audire]

If you want to think that MoFi is alone in this be my guest. You would be wrong.

I never said MoFi is alone in this! You are making stuff up! I just asked you to offer supporting evidence that others are doing it as well. Without proof you are merely speculating.

As I already stated in #613 above, “Any label that is using deceit to market their vinyl deserves the same!”

 

[microstrip]

If you want to think that MoFi is alone in this be my guest. You would be wrong.

No, they are not alone. But until someone has the complete certitude and exposes it - surely no one wants to spread rumors - the high-end will go on relying on the golden ears that will play the victimization role again.

Even Michael Fremer has expressed doubts about the origins of some top expensive LP recordings in AnalogPlanet more than once.

Just look at the photos of the tape machines owned by several cutting facilities accepting analog tape masters - they do not have the look ahead loop system, relying on a digital delay line and computer system to space the grooves.