(...) I am not deciding on duettas luckily.
Why luckily? Can we know what are you deciding on?
(...) I am not deciding on duettas luckily.
Why luckily? Can we know what are you deciding on?
(...) I have now chosen the Scintilla over the Duetta and the Diva. So that leaves me with a Scintilla and a horn choice that I will close off in June (...)
11 days to know the final choice?
Trip mostly towards end of June. Just so you know, I love both, but my front runner is one horn, scintilla second, and another horn third. If I had more money (35k), it would have been another customized horn, direct.
Caelin, I went down that research road as a possible alternative to Pendragons if that idea could not be executed. My answer was Full Ranges from True Sound Works in Nevada, using Graz ribbons and the heaviest, most robust frame Rich of TSW can devise.
The amplification solutions for FRs are extremely controversial but I don't care about that -- I know what I would've used. I would have asked Rich to engineer the crossovers so I could use a solid-state amp on the woofer, and then drive each pair of midrange/tweeter ribbons with a single high power, push-pull tube mono amp (i.e. my VTL MB-750s).
Caelin, I went down that research road as a possible alternative to Pendragons if that idea could not be executed. My answer was Full Ranges from True Sound Works in Nevada, using Graz ribbons and the heaviest, most robust frame Rich of TSW can devise.
The amplification solutions for FRs are extremely controversial but I don't care about that -- I know what I would've used. I would have asked Rich to engineer the crossovers so I could use a solid-state amp on the woofer, and then drive each pair of midrange/tweeter ribbons with a single high power, push-pull tube mono amp (i.e. my VTL MB-750s).
I spent a lot of time with Schick and Schroeder, the designers, in the WE room. Schick owns an apogee caliper and said the Kong's FR system in Hong Kong is the best apogee system he has heard. Panels in the middle of the room and when you go to either side, you get the image. Michael, accurate?
What is Kong using to drive his Full Ranges? Do you know what the rest of his system is by any chance?
Now he has Pass X600.5, but previously he had some many CJ, a total combo of 100 odd valves in his set up.
Yeesh...100 tubes. I wonder if my Gryphon would be enough to drive the Full Ranges if Rich Murray/TSW used a good passive crossover...or would you say i have to assume a 2nd Gryphon amp to drive the Full Ranges properly?
Yes you will need two. But Rich I think just do some adjustment to be driven by one, I forget.
A good way might be to start with Scinnie on current amp and see if you like that sound. 11k euro. Even if you are forced to resell at a loss it won't be much. Anyway later just got back from Munich.
I think his 100 included 24 from Aesthetix IO eclipse and more from the preamp
Caelin, no to horns
That Duettas experience w the visceral wall of sound has cooled my desire for any horns
No, it's more the grand combination of things from potential ribbon signature in treble, to inappropriateness of tubes and Duettas in my large space, to Duettas' overly forensic nature, to most importantly that I truly have a satisfying sound w less overt signature than what I heard at Justin's, and I actually believe it's greedy at this point to potentially throw all my system building out the window for this nirvana/mirage scenario
Decision helped by a lot of first hand experience opinions in private
Micro, decided to put all my music storage at back of room hence reducing listening area depth to 37.5'
Caelin, no to horns
That Duettas experience w the visceral wall of sound has cooled my desire for any horns
No, it's more the grand combination of things from potential ribbon signature in treble, to inappropriateness of tubes and Duettas in my large space, to Duettas' overly forensic nature, to most importantly that I truly have a satisfying sound w less overt signature than what I heard at Justin's, and I actually believe it's greedy at this point to potentially throw all my system building out the window for this nirvana/mirage scenario
Decision helped by a lot of first hand experience opinions in private
Micro, decided to put all my music storage at back of room hence reducing listening area depth to 37.5'
Like most of you here, I am drawn to the spatial qualities of the Apogees and the 'live' jump factor of a horn. There is no perfect speaker, for all tastes and music types. And yet, I am pretty sure that I have found a speaker that has enough of the qualities of both the Apogee and the qualities of a horn without giving away much if anything on either side.
I won't mention it in this thread since it would derail the thread.
(...) That Duettas experience w the visceral wall of sound has cooled my desire for any horns (...)
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