Zero Distortion: Tango Time

[Argonaut]

If one has a large screen high quality AV system then this Blue Ray set of Robert Lepage’s 2012 Ring Cycle production at The Metropolitan is excellent and remains one of the most stand out performances that I have ever attended.

Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen: Also contains the film 'Wagner's Dream' - a documentary about the making of the Metropolitan Operas new Ring cycle.

Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen. Deutsche Grammophon: 0734771. Buy 5 Blu-rays online. Das Rheingold Lisette Oropesa (Woglinde), Jennifer Johnson Cano (Wellgunde), Tamara Mumford (Flosshilde), Eric Owens (Alberich), Stephanie Blythe (Fricka), Bryn Terfel (Wotan), Richard Croft (Loge), Franz-Josef...

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Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen: Also contains the film 'Wagner's Dream' - a documentary about the making of the Metropolitan Operas new Ring cycle.

Wagner: Der Ring des Nibelungen. Deutsche Grammophon: 0734771. Buy 5 Blu-rays online. Das Rheingold Lisette Oropesa (Woglinde), Jennifer Johnson Cano (Wellgunde), Tamara Mumford (Flosshilde), Eric Owens (Alberich), Stephanie Blythe (Fricka), Bryn Terfel (Wotan), Richard Croft (Loge), Franz-Josef...

www.prestomusic.com

 

[bonzo75]

These days I have been listening a lot Wagner, Mahler exciting pieces. Here is Wagner's Die Walkure by Erich Leinsdorf I would like to recommend. I have a dozen Die Walkure but sonically this is the best. Interpretation wise it is also very good imo. I actually like Solti and Stokowski most but sonically could not find records that get close to this dirc-to-disc by Sheffield Lab. It is performed by LA Philharmonic. SL27-5L28. You can use this to test your system. Do the warp9 and you will fully understand how important the "clean treble" is. It is ear fatiguing after listening if the sound is very direct and not clean.

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I noice my videos have been tilting to one side lately I dont know what's wrong with my eyes when recording.

This is the Leinsdorf Valkyrie on Altec 604. These are coaxial tannoy type speaker drivers, pair costs 2k, and you can put into a big wooden box like this made by a local carpenter. Werner Jajusch cross overs being used here cost around 500 quid. EMT 948, TSD15 cart, and a Hashimoto 300b amp.

 

[bonzo75]

And because we have Oistrakh's Brahms, here is Kogan. Surely one of the top 3 LPs I heard was the test pressing of this one at G's

 

[bonzo75]

Drat - it stopped just when it was getting good.

Just because you asked, here is the entire

 

[bonzo75]

And this is what tang secretly listens to

 

[Tango]

Master Tang - any update on your Klangfilm adventure as yet? We are all excited about this one….

I am pretty excited too Bill. The logistic problem is making the Eurodyn my last jigsaw. Right now I am testing cables that David sent me. They are pro audio cables. Only copper. I also have my own selection of pro cables to test. Testing cable is a bitch. It takes time and you have to be patient with broken sound from your system until it turns good. So the delay of speaker shipment actually good for me. By the time they come I will have less variable to take care of. Exceptional sound never comes easy. I want to know how each cable behave so I put one cable in at a time. A timely process. Here is the cable I just put in between pre and amps three days ago.



Today they are starting to sing quite wonderfully. The videos below show that I still manage to get a pretty good sound.

The A-Ha video Bonzo posted also used this cable.

 

[Audiophile Bill]

I am pretty excited too Bill. The logistic problem is making the Eurodyn my last jigsaw. Right now I am testing cables that David sent me. They are pro audio cables. Only copper. I also have my own selection of pro cables to test. Testing cable is a bitch. It takes time and you have to be patient with broken sound from your system until it turns good. So the delay of speaker shipment actually good for me. By the time they come I will have less variable to take care of. Exceptional sound never comes easy. I want to know how each cable behave so I put one cable in at a time. A timely process. Here is the cable I just put in between pre and amps three days ago.

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Today they are starting to sing quite wonderfully. The videos below show that I still manage to get a pretty good sound.

The A-Ha video Bonzo posted also used this cable.

They sound very good to me. Not sure but I hear a very low noise floor and a very natural flowing tone.

 

[morricab]

I am pretty excited too Bill. The logistic problem is making the Eurodyn my last jigsaw. Right now I am testing cables that David sent me. They are pro audio cables. Only copper. I also have my own selection of pro cables to test. Testing cable is a bitch. It takes time and you have to be patient with broken sound from your system until it turns good. So the delay of speaker shipment actually good for me. By the time they come I will have less variable to take care of. Exceptional sound never comes easy. I want to know how each cable behave so I put one cable in at a time. A timely process. Here is the cable I just put in between pre and amps three days ago.

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Today they are starting to sing quite wonderfully. The videos below show that I still manage to get a pretty good sound.

The A-Ha video Bonzo posted also used this cable.

Are you comparing them to pricier "audiophile" cables as well? Just curious about the process here. Also I like the violin piece...you should post that on this thread

Violin videos: solo or with small ensemble

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Why are you convinced that inexpensive pro cables are the way to go? Just wondering about the logic behind this step.

 

[morricab]

They sound very good to me. Not sure but I hear a very low noise floor and a very natural flowing tone.

Are you also using these kinds of cables Bill, or do you have something more "audiophile" like most of us do?

 

[Audiophile Bill]

Are you also using these kinds of cables Bill, or do you have something more "audiophile" like most of us do?

Hi Brad,

I use a horrid mismatch of whatever I happened to have around. My cable looms likely need a monumental amount of work and fettling tbh.
I have done the whole “audiophile” thing before though.

 

[PeterA]

I am pretty excited too Bill. The logistic problem is making the Eurodyn my last jigsaw. Right now I am testing cables that David sent me. They are pro audio cables. Only copper. I also have my own selection of pro cables to test. Testing cable is a bitch. It takes time and you have to be patient with broken sound from your system until it turns good. So the delay of speaker shipment actually good for me. By the time they come I will have less variable to take care of. Exceptional sound never comes easy. I want to know how each cable behave so I put one cable in at a time. A timely process. Here is the cable I just put in between pre and amps three days ago.

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Today they are starting to sing quite wonderfully. The videos below show that I still manage to get a pretty good sound.

The A-Ha video Bonzo posted also used this cable.

Tang, the Kreutzer? video is interesting with a quite prominent bass. Is this the result of the cartridge, cable, or both? It seems more pronounced than usual.

 

[Folsom]

I am pretty excited too Bill. The logistic problem is making the Eurodyn my last jigsaw. Right now I am testing cables that David sent me. They are pro audio cables. Only copper. I also have my own selection of pro cables to test. Testing cable is a bitch. It takes time and you have to be patient with broken sound from your system until it turns good. So the delay of speaker shipment actually good for me. By the time they come I will have less variable to take care of. Exceptional sound never comes easy. I want to know how each cable behave so I put one cable in at a time. A timely process. Here is the cable I just put in between pre and amps three days ago.

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Today they are starting to sing quite wonderfully. The videos below show that I still manage to get a pretty good sound.

The A-Ha video Bonzo posted also used this cable.

About time

 

[bonzo75]

About time

Looks like you have been absent. Hope you did not follow your own medical advice from Google

 

[Tango]

Are you comparing them to pricier "audiophile" cables as well? Just curious about the process here. Also I like the violin piece...you should post that on this thread

Violin videos: solo or with small ensemble

www.whatsbestforum.com

Why are you convinced that inexpensive pro cables are the way to go? Just wondering about the logic behind this step.

Hi Brad. I went through quite a few audiophile cables, Siltech, Crystal, Gobel, MiT Articulation SHD, Kuro, Odin 1&2, Vyda, etc. So much money was lost. Only gain is experience. All audiophile cable especially uber ones aim to "show" the best sound in every parameter. I don't need Ronaldo or Messi of cable. I only need cables that play "normal" more team work with the rest of my system. Money is also the issue. I no longer want to spend a lot more on cables. Placement of my equipments require lengthy cables. I am fortunate that expensive audiophile cables don't seem to fit my sonic preference now. And I am very fortunate to have ddk guiding me on equipment selection all along. Cheap and good is difficult to find. Ddk helps me short cut the learning curve. But I would not realize what is what on cable if I have not spent shit load of money on uber cables before. I am using cables that David sent me to try. They are not all pro cables. The speaker cables are Denon that could only be found in Japanese used market. Interconnects are Gepco and Belden. I don't think David is using Gepco personally in his system. I know he is using Belden. He only gave me one Belden because it is the old model that he himself cannot find more. You and Bill heard from videos that at least they don't make my system sound less interesting. My approach is no technical one. I just use what works in my system regardless of price. Pro cables don't seem to do the showoff thing as much as audiophile ones.

 

[Tango]

Tang, the Kreutzer? video is interesting with a quite prominent bass. Is this the result of the cartridge, cable, or both? It seems more pronounced than usual.

Not Kreutzer. Gian sent me this awesome record from Fone. This is the best Fone made in Japan. The vinyl is transparent.



The Neumann DST is better than Master Sig5R. It is the most natural and transparent to recording cart I ever listened to so far. The bass and staging of Gepco interconnect are superb.

 

[Folsom]

Looks like you have been absent. Hope you did not follow your own medical advice from Google

I have no idea what you’re talking about on all accounts.

 

[Al M.]

I have no idea what you’re talking about on all accounts.

Don't worry. Ked just seems in a bit of a bad mood recently .

 

[bonzo75]

Don't worry. Ked just seems in a bit of a bad mood recently .

That was to do with his giving everyone medical advice when the covid discussions were on by googling

 

[Al M.]

That was to do with his giving everyone medical advice when the covid discussions were on by googling

I know. Those were funny discussions back then, devoid of knowledge by most about viruses and immunology -- and God forbid, vaccines. You are obviously on the good side on this, Ked.

 

[microstrip]

(...) The speaker cables are Denon that could only be found in Japanese used market. Interconnects are Gepco and Belden. I don't think David is using Gepco personally in his system. I know he is using Belden. (...)

It would be great if you could add the model codes to the brands. As far as I know Gepco was acquired by Belden - do your cables precede the merging?