World Debut: Vertere Reference Tonearm

We want another chance. I would have to vote Touraj winner on round one, but Gary and I are planning a comeback. Jack is so kind, I wonder what his moves are...
Win-Touraj
Place-Gary
Show-Me bad

It is Kentucky Derby day :)
 
I wouldn't bet on myself Peter!
 
I like the light at the end of the armtube. And those large cartridge screws must make for easy cartridge swapping.

The screws holding the cartidge are designed by Peter Ledermann of Soundsmith. The screws come in different weights to help in mass loading.
 
Looks like the arm board is acrylic. I guess that makes sense. It was designed on an acrylic TT.
 
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HMWA (high molecular weight acrylic) has some very interesting properties at the microscopic level and also at the molecular level. Last CES, I sat with Touraj and discussed materials, and what acrylic can do for turntables that isn't too obvious at first glance.
 
HMWA (high molecular weight acrylic) has some very interesting properties at the microscopic level and also at the molecular level. Last CES, I sat with Touraj and discussed materials, and what acrylic can do for turntables that isn't too obvious at first glance.

Anything you can share with us?
 
HMWA (high molecular weight acrylic) has some very interesting properties at the microscopic level and also at the molecular level. Last CES, I sat with Touraj and discussed materials, and what acrylic can do for turntables that isn't too obvious at first glance.

I'm running a delrin board on the rear slot.
 
That is the cool thing about turntables that have arm boards. You can use whatever material works best for your setup.

I haven't tried the stock rosewood board since mine was mis-drilled at the factory when Bob Graham came over for the setup. Fortunately he brought his armboard (delrin) and we swapped. Delrin is my only data point with the techdas so far. When my Elite arm comes in I will be using the stock rosewood board.
 
I'm running a delrin board on the rear slot.

Nice - very clean and transparent, with slight softness. Going to rosewood will make it a little warmer, but wider soundstage.

From the looks of the picture, Touraj replaced the entire duralumin holder with acrylic. That will make a bigger difference than just changing the rosewood insert.

Different woods have different resonance characteristics as do different materials other than wood. I suspect that there's no "right" material to make these armboards out of. Every different one would sound different - which is what makes analog so much fun.
 
These screws don't come with the arm.

Were they from Soundsmith or Touraj? I know that he was machining screws from the same billet of titanium as he made the tonearm head. He was telling me that it reduces resonance between the screw and the headshell resulting in cleaner contact between the cartridge and the headshell. I don't know if he turned it into an option or he was going to supply a pair of screws with a tonearm.
 
Were they from Soundsmith or Touraj? I know that he was machining screws from the same billet of titanium as he made the tonearm head. He was telling me that it reduces resonance between the screw and the headshell resulting in cleaner contact between the cartridge and the headshell. I don't know if he turned it into an option or he was going to supply a pair of screws with a tonearm.

The screws are from Soundsmith. Touraj did bring along the titanium screws which come along with the arm but unfortunately, they didn't fit the cartridge that was being used.
As for the arm board, the acrylic used is of the cell cast type and not the extruded ones.
 
I love how trickle down technology allows a more easily affordable price point, but £24000 to £3500 sounds like a joke. £3500 is well beyond what most could ever hope to spend on a mere tonearm. £24000 is unforgiveable. All IMHO. High end pricing is a total embarrassment.
 
I love how trickle down technology allows a more easily affordable price point, but £24000 to £3500 sounds like a joke. £3500 is well beyond what most could ever hope to spend on a mere tonearm. £24000 is unforgiveable. All IMHO. High end pricing is a total embarrassment.

:)

As long as you can attach some vague , difficult to explain , jargon-sounding subjective terms to what you perceive or think you perceive it will remain so... We are into luxury goods after all...Whatever the market can bear ...
 

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