I'm going to add one extra to this. This has always been my goal too- the system should connect you to the musical event such that you're not thinking about the system:Your question reveals a misunderstanding of natural sound and why I think my system thread was so contentious. There were many comments suggesting that natural sound is all about typology. Vinyl, SET, horns. That is not it. I listed on the first page of that thread what I heard from each of the natural sounding systems in Utah. This was a list of common attributes that made each system sound a particular way, and I and others describe that as natural sound. I never once mentioned components or typologies in that list. But people claimed I was talking about vintage sound, or only vinyl, and SETs and horns.
One aspect of natural sound is the ability for the system to disappear. It disappears because it does not draw attention to itself. It does not emphasize anything. There is a sense of balance. Edit: I should add that there needs to be a sufficient amount of clarity and energy so that you turn to the realism of what you’re hearing rather than thinking, something is missing from the presentation.
The six systems I just described here disappear precisely because they did not draw attention to themselves. It doesn’t have anything to do with typology. These are examples that I’ve heard of different typologies that all share this characteristic.
I am not suggesting, nor did I write anywhere, that those same components, configured differently in different combinations and rooms would disappear the way they did in those specific cases. I’m not speaking in generalities. I am describing something very specific because you asked me for specific examples. I am not drawing any conclusions about the dealer, the brands, the set ups, the typologies. I do not think in those terms anymore. I only listen to the result. And there are different ways to get that result.
The extra bit, when you know you are 'in the zone' is when the system is able to generate sounds (including voices) that are so real that your sense of suspension of disbelief is bypassed entirely (all audiophiles exercise a suspension of disbelief) and causes you to start and wonder where it came from. I've had the experience of playing my system and realizing someone had invaded my home and was mocking me by singing along with my stereo!! I snapped my head around and no-one was there!
I've had others confirm this experience: its spooky.












