The 'Record Sounds Great but the Music Sucks' Thread

Not sure which RCA's you are referring to, but the K.E. Wilkinson recordings are IMHO some of the VERY best recordings in the whole catalog. IF your'e talking of the UK pressings, then some (not all) are inferior.

No Davey am referring to the US recordings licensed to EMI/UK, not the other way around :)

The UK/SB releases that I 've heard are pretty much as a whole lacking low end.
 
look at her credentials: a has been stage actress that 'can sing' when need be. im sure david retained her services for a *song* :rolleyes:

No look at who her husband is.
 
I actually like Diana Krall.

I will throw in anything from Chesky. Pure drivel IMO.

Here is a funny Krall story. The guys at Stereo Design here in San Diego told me about a customer who owns Wilson Maxx3 and listens to the same 5 "well recorded" CDs including Krall. His kids finally told him if he puts on those CDs again they were personally going to go into the listening room and smash his system to absolute ******* pieces. LOL.

Not a fan of Krall's singing. Nice but not a fan. I DO like her playing and she should do albums that showcase this more. Live in Paris does just that and that makes it the only album she has made that pushes all my buttons instead of making me feel I was slipped a mickey.
 
whart, most of the Soria series actually had the plain red label and not the famous shaded dog label. I posted on the 'shaded dog' forum (http://www.shadeddog.com) about my experience with the Milhaud LP and its plain red label.

As to the DW Lp's. I like mine a lot. But then, I also very much like the RR Arnold LP for the music as well as the sound!:D

You don't find the RR amorphous, homogenized and gray? There's also something really weird going on in the upper octaves too. Too much wowee zowee and not enough stubstance. You should really find someone with the TTP release and hear the recording as it was intended!
 
I think i was pretty careful with that one, and Dafos, when i used to run Quads.

I thought the best RR was the early Professor Johnson's Astounding Sound Show!
 
Oooo. Here's another on my list. Telarc's Round Up. I like my Westerns with visuals. LOL.
 
You guys are lucky you don't have to be the ones doing the shows. I try to find music that's not been demo'ed to death, that sound great, and that I like. Unfortunately, by the end of the first day, I'm already sick of it. I sometimes end up demo'ing music that I don't particularly like so that I don't end a show hating the music I love.
 
You guys are lucky you don't have to be the ones doing the shows. I try to find music that's not been demo'ed to death, that sound great, and that I like. Unfortunately, by the end of the first day, I'm already sick of it. I sometimes end up demo'ing music that I don't particularly like so that I don't end a show hating the music I love.

Count me in with the unlucky since I do at least one show annually!
 
Oooo. Here's another on my list. Telarc's Round Up. I like my Westerns with visuals. LOL.

When I was in the Philippines - just being there 2 days was enough to make me thoroughly sick of this piece, even though I used to like it a lot having grown up with Bonanza on the TV (in black&white).
 
What really burns my butt is since I'm a dealer, I have to have this stuff because people ask for it! Someday, I can sell them all these NM/NM LPs which I never play for myself for big bucks I suppose. Until then, I am exercising my right to whine. LOL.
 
You guys are lucky you don't have to be the ones doing the shows. I try to find music that's not been demo'ed to death, that sound great, and that I like. Unfortunately, by the end of the first day, I'm already sick of it. I sometimes end up demo'ing music that I don't particularly like so that I don't end a show hating the music I love.

Gary, How often do your guests bring in their own music to listen to? You must hear something your not familiar with that you like every once in a while.:)

I only go to an audio show once a year. I can imagine it getting old if your have to go on a regular basis. The music at the foreign shows must be a bit different.

Sean
 
Gary, How often do your guests bring in their own music to listen to? You must hear something your not familiar with that you like every once in a while.:)

Actually, quite often. I encourage it, and my regular visitors will try to bring in interesting stuff. Last fave album a friend brought in was Jeff Beck's Emotion and Commotion on vinyl and left me a copy. I almost wore out one of the tracks, but I still enjoy the rest of the album greatly.

The other great source for fabulous music is our audio society.
 
Yes, I have picked up a few good ones played at previous shows and our audio society meetings. I will try and bring something interesting next time I visit.

Cheers,

Sean
 
You don't find the RR amorphous, homogenized and gray? There's also something really weird going on in the upper octaves too. Too much wowee zowee and not enough stubstance. You should really find someone with the TTP release and hear the recording as it was intended!

Myles, I'll keep that i mind. However, I like the music and I think the recording is decent, not perhaps reference quality, but very pleasant.:)
 
You guys are lucky you don't have to be the ones doing the shows. I try to find music that's not been demo'ed to death, that sound great, and that I like. Unfortunately, by the end of the first day, I'm already sick of it. I sometimes end up demo'ing music that I don't particularly like so that I don't end a show hating the music I love.

Gary makes an interesting point. The show exhibitor or dealer has a very small window to make a positive impression on a potential customer. Do you go with great music/lousy recording or a great recording/so-so music?
 
I love it when guys bering in their own music. I LOVE IT! I find lots of good stuff for me to buy that way! As such, I strongly encourage it for my benefit and theirs. The majority however, don't bring their own music mainly because they either aren't coming straight from their own homes, they don't want their prized software leaving their homes or simply because they don't want to lug stuff around. Since that is the case pretty often, I note the "most requested" and procure the same for future use.

It seems every decade and generation has its hot titles. In recent years its been Nils Lofgren and Hugh Masakela. I really like these guys so I keep personal play to a minimum knowing the requests will be inevitable.

Another album on my list. M&K Hot Stix - Fatha Hines. Good sonics. Good music. Just not my type for personal listening time. I'm a classical junkie. Hardly requested. I sold it to a fellow WBF member for the price I paid for it. I felt it needed a home where it would be better appreciated.
 
Gary makes an interesting point. The show exhibitor or dealer has a very small window to make a positive impression on a potential customer. Do you go with great music/lousy recording or a great recording/so-so music?

I have given a great deal of thought to this, and I would put the emphasis in favor of the performance. My reasoning is that most of us began this journey with a love for music. But, what if the potential customer is only interested in equipment? Those people do exist, you know? One way to look at it is that when such a person is a potential customer there is the downside that he will soon tire of the product, and it will inevitably end up on AudiogoN or some other sales venue. That can be the kiss of death for a maker of exclusive items. I even know a couple of guys who buy up their products whenever they see them on the used market. Having customers who are lifelong users of the product is a dream that many manufacturers cannot afford to center their efforts on, but to me any trade-off in lost sales is worth it. After all, it isn't like I make hundreds of turntables a year.

I suppose mixing in a few stellar recordings with more musical ones can be enough to make that first impression, if the selections are made carefully. In any event, it is a risky move at a show, but one I would take. Really horrible recordings aren't something people listen to, so they don't count.

Luckily for us, there are great recordings of great music out there. Finding new ones is the trick. Still, toe tapping isn't always about inner detail, transparency, attack, or whatever other descriptions that reviewers use. Sometimes, it as basic as finding that emotion that lets us escape into the music, even if a few parts are missing or just wrong.
 
exactly. theres more treasure than drek in chesky's catalog. i just got the jimmy cobb quartet jazz in the key of blue and xiomara laugart " Lo Voz' (hot afro-cubian beats) both 192/24 master wav discs and they're superb on all levels.

very popular here in in demand in the oop chesky lp of ana caram - rio after dark. i sold many copies and still some more want them, on LP.
 

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