Yes agree abit slow. The bass on lascala is fully horn loaded,it’s cleaner tighter and faster with better clarity.Even the cornwalls the bass was good but not great.
La Scala only go down to 45hz but my two 15 inch subwoofers go down to 15 hz flat.to me it needs to reach around 30hz as well.
Very nice.Here are two more pictures of my current listening room showing the missing view of the other rear side of the room, plus the view of the ceiling. I could only attach five photos to my original post.
The ceiling photo is looking up at the ceiling from behind my listening seat. It shows two 2-foot by 2-foot sections of 4"-thick Sonex balanced atop the fan blades. These pieces of Sonex were placed so as to absorb the ceiling reflection of the speakers as seen from the listening position.
I obviously can't use the fan like this. I had every intention of permanently attaching the Sonex to the ceiling, but this arrangement worked so well sonically, and stapling that Sonex to the ceiling while holding it above my head and avoiding the fan blades seems like such a daunting task, that for now I've decided to leave it just like it is and forego use of the fan. The several inches between the back side of the Sonex and the ceiling surface may actually make the Sonex more effective in terms of absorption at lower frequencies.
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How are your speakers going?to me it needs to reach around 30hz as well.
they do play with the grilles on, but on pictures they look better without themDefinitely put the grilles back on and try more absorption on the floor in front of the speakers.
Sorry, I'd not noticed the date this thread was started - it just popped up when I clicked my usual start point on this forum, New Posts. As I said, I liked the relaxed way the Harbeths sounded, but it isn't me who has the pair without grills - I've never owned Harneths. I spoke with the UK distributor about D&Ds in my own room and they suggested against me getting them. Martin Logans sounded unhappy in my room (probably for much the same reason that D&D might), so I've stuck with Avantgarde horns, though recently upgraded twice - from Unos (bought new in 2002) to 2006 Duos bought 2 years ago to new Duo XDs.If I understand you correctly, Peter, you're wondering why my original post in the Harbeth thread doesn't mention the Dutch & Dutch 8c's which I've raved about. The simple answer is the timeline.
As best I can recall, the time order of main speakers I've had in my current stereo room is:
Stirling LS3/6 (first without, and then with AudioKinesis Swarm subwoofers)
Janszen Valentina Active
Dutch & Dutch 8c
You can check this by looking at the date of my original posts in my threads about each of these speakers. Thus, currently, I'm mostly writing about my Sanders experiences, although I do occasionally add posts to prior threads about speakers and other equipment I've owned or currently own.
Just before I responded to your post, I did in fact add an update on the D&D speakers here:
Dutch & Dutch 8c SpeakersI think that most people who have actually heard the speakers come away being very impressed with the sonics. It's too bad that in most markets these speakers seem to be sold primarily through a few pro-audio outlets rather than the usual consumer high-end stores. Many audiophiles are either...www.whatsbestforum.com
I still have the D&Ds, but am not currently using them. I sold the Harbeth M40.2 when I acquired the Gradient 1.4. I still greatly admire the Harbeth sound, however, and would not be averse to acquiring a pair of the new M40.3 if I had a bit larger room for them. I did not keep the M40.2s because the later M40.2 Anniversary model was already out and I knew before I sold my M40.2 that Alan Shaw would be updating to a new M40.3 model.
The Sanders happen to work extremely well in my small room because of their very narrow high-frequency dispersion. They also don't give me claustrophobia listened to at close range since the electrostatic panels are transparent.
The Harbeths are not about looks. Maybe that's why you have the grilles off, to show more of the fine wood finish. But, honestly, the Harbeths sound better with the grilles on.
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