The 'Record Sounds Great but the Music Sucks' Thread

[puroagave]

---What do you guys think of Cheap Trick?

Music? Sound? Live Peformance? Band? :b
...Lead singer? Lead guitarist? Bass player? Drummer? Keyboardist? ...?

uuh...i admit to seeing them once in the late seventies at jack murphy stadium insane diego. i want to say foghat and the pat travers band were on the same bill. nowadays i only hear them by chance in the car getting my fix, surfing oldie rock stations

 

[NorthStar]

---Thx Rob. ...I was asking because they were on the other night on the Internet PBS channel.
The lead singer has a great voice, and the lead guitarist is a very funny guy! :b

But I found them very tight together; in the same vein as CCR's tightness.
Pro musicianship that's for sure. ...They don't miss a beat.

Not my style of music nowadays, but that was my overall impression,
and I was curious of other's impressions as well.

Oh, and that lead guitarist changes guitar for every single song!

 

[jadis]

I bought a few Wilson Lps then and I must say most were boring except one that I like. Can't fault the recording, after all that was Wilson's main line before he produced speakers commercially. The one I really can't sink into is The Apocalypse Now Sessions Rhythm Devils Play River Music. The musicians were like in a boat flowing through a river and all sorts of sound comes out but I really can't understand what it was all about.

 

[puroagave]

---Thx Rob. ...I was asking because they were on the other night on the Internet PBS channel.
The lead singer has a great voice, and the lead guitarist is a very funny guy! :b

But I found them very tight together; in the same vein as CCR's tightness.

Not my style of music nowadays, but that was my overall impression,
and I was curious of other's impressions as well.

rick neilsen is/was a great guitarist and their songs had a lot of catchy hooks - formulaic rock if you will. a friend at the time worked at hamer guitars and built a few of rick's personal axes. he only played hamers.

 

[NorthStar]

---"Is/was", is he dead?! ...Or not playing anymore?

Ya, Rock&Roll, with hooks.

Rick Neilson, he has tons of guitars! ...And some of them are truly funny/funky/outrageous!
That's what they all are, Hamer guitars?

 

[MylesBAstor]

I bought a few Wilson Lps then and I must say most were boring except one that I like. Can't fault the recording, after all that was Wilson's main line before he produced speakers commercially. The one I really can't sink into is The Apocalypse Now Sessions Rhythm Devils Play River Music. The musicians were like in a boat flowing through a river and all sorts of sound comes out but I really can't understand what it was all about.

I like that one as well as Ragtime Razzmatazz V. 1. The album that always stumped me was Winds of War and Peace. Never sounded good in any system that I owned. Someone told me needed to get the right pressing since at that time Doug Sax played around with his lathes.

 

[DaveyF]

The one a'phile LP that I bought after much searching and truly hated was the MFSL LP "The power and the majesty". Luckily, I had bought it from a dealer and he had no problem swapping it out. I couldn't even listen through one side

Ok, I know it's not music, BUT who really wants to listen to that. Kind of reminded me of the old MFSL train LP's...

BTW, Bruce at Unlimited still has a nice selection of LP's...not like he used to, but better than nothing.
In the day, I used to buy quite a few LP's from there.

 

[Bill Hart]

I like that one as well as Ragtime Razzmatazz V. 1. The album that always stumped me was Winds of War and Peace. Never sounded good in any system that I owned. Someone told me needed to get the right pressing since at that time Doug Sax played around with his lathes.

The Hyperion Knight piano record by Wilson is pretty good, i listened to it last night although i think the recording of Nojima Plays Liszt sounded better on my system. I have a bunch of those Dave Wilson records and haven't listened to them in years. Ditto, a bunch of the Mark Levinson records.
I found an oddball today, which I haven't listened to yet. A Nimbus 45 rpm piano recording. Also found a Soria that is old, stereo, but plain red label on the record, not a doggy in sight. What's that about? I thought the period Soria sets were all dog records. Postscript- maybe an english Soria, given the dog war with EMI?

 

[puroagave]

I like that one as well as Ragtime Razzmatazz V. 1. The album that always stumped me was Winds of War and Peace. Never sounded good in any system that I owned. Someone told me needed to get the right pressing since at that time Doug Sax played around with his lathes.

theres a bass drum thwack at the beginning of one of the fanfares on winds of war and peace that was a stunner...maybe i had the 'right' pressing or whatever. imo, the playing is uneven in spots resembling a high school band.

 

[Bill Hart]

theres a bass drum thwack at the beginning of one of the fanfares on winds of war and peace that was a stunner...maybe i had the 'right' pressing or whatever. imo, the playing is uneven in spots resembling a high school band.

I think i was pretty careful with that one, and Dafos, when i used to run Quads.

 

[puroagave]

I think i was pretty careful with that one, and Dafos, when i used to run Quads.

you want to watch 57s arc in two secs flat - play dafos or the winds lp discussed before...i had soundlab a-3s back then and they could take it and then some.

 

[DaveyF]

The Hyperion Knight piano record by Wilson is pretty good, i listened to it last night although i think the recording of Nojima Plays Liszt sounded better on my system. I have a bunch of those Dave Wilson records and haven't listened to them in years. Ditto, a bunch of the Mark Levinson records.
I found an oddball today, which I haven't listened to yet. A Nimbus 45 rpm piano recording. Also found a Soria that is old, stereo, but plain red label on the record, not a doggy in sight. What's that about? I thought the period Soria sets were all dog records. Postscript- maybe an english Soria, given the dog war with EMI?

whart, most of the Soria series actually had the plain red label and not the famous shaded dog label. I posted on the 'shaded dog' forum (http://www.shadeddog.com) about my experience with the Milhaud LP and its plain red label.

As to the DW Lp's. I like mine a lot. But then, I also very much like the RR Arnold LP for the music as well as the sound!

 

[MylesBAstor]

The Hyperion Knight piano record by Wilson is pretty good, i listened to it last night although i think the recording of Nojima Plays Liszt sounded better on my system. I have a bunch of those Dave Wilson records and haven't listened to them in years. Ditto, a bunch of the Mark Levinson records.
I found an oddball today, which I haven't listened to yet. A Nimbus 45 rpm piano recording. Also found a Soria that is old, stereo, but plain red label on the record, not a doggy in sight. What's that about? I thought the period Soria sets were all dog records. Postscript- maybe an english Soria, given the dog war with EMI?

Yes Hyperion does some nice interpretation of Gershwin! We used to hang out a lot together when we wrote for TAS but haven't seen him in years. Wonder what he's recording?

Yes, may be an English RCA; sadly they are in my experience inferior to the US pressing

 

[MylesBAstor]

theres a bass drum thwack at the beginning of one of the fanfares on winds of war and peace that was a stunner...maybe i had the 'right' pressing or whatever. imo, the playing is uneven in spots resembling a high school band.

Yeah I don't remember that; what I do remember is that everything just sounded amorphous and homogenized. Kinda like what the RR Arnold Dances did until I heard the tape. Sadly won't get to hear the analog ever again since Keith is worried about preserving his tapes and doesn't want to run them more than once (and cutting an LP can require doing several lacquers) and therefore is going digital copy to vinyl.

 

[puroagave]

Anything from Chesky? Clark Terry? Jon Faddis? The Harry Smiths? John Hammond Jr.? Jimmy Cobb? Pacquito d'Rivera? Oregon? McCoy Tyner? How about David's own compositions?

exactly. theres more treasure than drek in chesky's catalog. i just got the jimmy cobb quartet jazz in the key of blue and xiomara laugart " Lo Voz' (hot afro-cubian beats) both 192/24 master wav discs and they're superb on all levels.

 

[DaveyF]

Yes Hyperion does some nice interpretation of Gershwin! We used to hang out a lot together when we wrote for TAS but haven't seen him in years. Wonder what he's recording?

Yes, may be an English RCA; sadly they are in my experience inferior to the US pressing

Not sure which RCA's you are referring to, but the K.E. Wilkinson recordings are IMHO some of the VERY best recordings in the whole catalog. IF your'e talking of the UK pressings, then some (not all) are inferior.

 

[puroagave]

Yeah I don't remember that; what I do remember is that everything just sounded amorphous and homogenized. Kinda like what the RR Arnold Dances did until I heard the tape. Sadly won't get to hear the analog ever again since Keith is worried about preserving his tapes and doesn't want to run them more than once (and cutting an LP can require doing several lacquers) and therefore is going digital copy to vinyl.

i cornered jan mancuso at the newport show last year and she told me the same thing about keith and the tapes, after i asked whether they'd re-relase their back catalog on vinyl. am i dreaming or did they announce LP reissues?

 

[JackD201]

Or Rebecca Pigeon

Spanish Harlem....oy please pass the Advil.

 

[JackD201]

La Folia de Spagna? I should quit dissing these things, and sell 'em. Then i could go out and buy more
I rather like The Plague on Decca Head 6 or whatever it is, i'm not usually much for spoken word records, but it does have its charms.....

The flies buzzing creeps me out. Well, it's what it's supposed to do.

 

[MylesBAstor]

i cornered jan mancuso at the newport show last year and she told me the same thing about keith and the tapes, after i asked whether they'd re-relase their back catalog on vinyl. am i dreaming or did they announce LP reissues?

The did two and I think one or more are about/have been released.