The best amps ever made!

[asindc]

Just in case you were wondering...

http://quadcities.craigslist.org/eld/4358568297.html

 

[JackD201]

I wonder who HE stole the secrets from. LOL!

 

[audioarcher]

Nice! Looks like someone stuck an old plate amp into a fancy homemade box. Looking for a sucker for sure.

 

[Ki Choi]

Here are the Best Sounding Speakers Ever to go with the above amps:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/ele/4345956456.html

 

[rockitman]

Here are the Best Sounding Speakers Ever to go with the above amps:

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/ele/4345956456.html

They are 15 " woofers. However, one has been replaced and does not match the other, but they sound fantastic.

lol

 

[mep]

lol

What do you want for $45?

 

[MylesBAstor]

Just in case you were wondering...

http://quadcities.craigslist.org/eld/4358568297.html

Actually Essence/Dale Pitcher has been around for a very long time. "Reportedly" he was involved in the design of the first Shunyata Hydra.

 

[Ken Newton]

What do you want for $45?

For the woofers to match, maybe? - LOL

"They are 15 " woofers. However, one has been replaced and does not match the other..."

 

[GrantS]

Actually Essence/Dale Pitcher has been around for a very long time. "Reportedly" he was involved in the design of the first Shunyata Hydra.

Hi Myles,

Not sure who your source was regarding "reportedly" being involved with the original Hydra Design, but that's not accurate if it were reported that way. Dale was involved with the design of the corian/wood-inlay chassis that was used for the original Hydra. They were produced until 2000-01 in the same factory he produced his speakers in. Unfortunately, there was a problem with some of the internal materials (which are now patented), being sold for other purposes without Caelin's knowledge. That was the beginning of our own factory and the end of any association with Mr. Pitcher. Dale did not have anything to do with the original Hydra's concept or design.

I apologize for the thread divergence.

Grant
Shunyata Research

 

[andromedaaudio]

Its quite a big speaker with quite a big speaker sound I reckon ,45 $ , if you re a student or whatever its quite nice

 

[MylesBAstor]

Hi Myles,

Not sure who your source was regarding "reportedly" being involved with the original Hydra Design, but that's not accurate if it were reported that way. Dale was involved with the design of the corian/wood-inlay chassis that was used for the original Hydra. They were produced until 2000-01 in the same factory he produced his speakers in. Unfortunately, there was a problem with some of the internal materials (which are now patented), being sold for other purposes without Caelin's knowledge. That was the beginning of our own factory and the end of any association with Mr. Pitcher. Dale did not have anything to do with the original Hydra's concept or design.

I apologize for the thread divergence.

Grant


Shunyata Research

Sorry any misinformation Grant. That's why said reportedly; that info came from the Stereophile web site and kinda surprised me.

 

[Geardaddy]

Obviously the OP has never heard these amps. I have owned Dale's speakers, amps, cabling, and current generation of power conditioner all of which are SOTA. There is an ad for those same amps on Audiogon from the same gentleman who has sold Dale's stuff in a brick and mortar setting for over 20 years.

His conditioner (theorem suspension bridge) is a monster and will be reviewed in the not too distant future. Obviously Dale does not need Shunyata's intellectual property to develop product. Dale has always spoken very highly of Shunyata and I would expect the same professionalism from them (at least in public).

 

[asindc]

Obviously the OP has never heard these amps. I have owned Dale's speakers, amps, cabling, and current generation of power conditioner all of which are SOTA. There is an ad for those same amps on Audiogon from the same gentleman who has sold Dale's stuff in a brick and mortar setting for over 20 years.

His conditioner (theorem suspension bridge) is a monster and will be reviewed in the not too distant future. Obviously Dale does not need Shunyata's intellectual property to develop product. Dale has always spoken very highly of Shunyata and I would expect the same professionalism from them (at least in public).

Their quality must be attributed in part to "50% of the parts" being "military secrets." Given that, perhaps it was foolhardy for me to make light of the ad.

 

[Geardaddy]

Their quality must be attributed in part to "50% of the parts" being "military secrets." Given that, perhaps it was foolhardy for me to make light of the ad.

The real question is why were you sleuthing the Quadcity craigslist? The second question would be why you felt inspired to turn it into a thread. More white noise in cyberspace...

I have no knowledge of the secret elements of that amplifier, but I do know there's a significant trickle-down effect of technology from the aerospace and Military industrial complex into audio. Take Bybee filtering for example. Most of the mom-and-pop, artisanal audio companies don't have the R&D and manpower to develop this stuff and thus have a symbiotic relationship with outside sources of technology.

Regarding the Hydra. Dale always told me he worked on the case only. He also stated that Caelin was one of the few true geniuses in audio and held him in very high esteem.

 

[asindc]

The real question is why were you sleuthing the Quadcity craigslist?

I wasn't.

The second question would be why you felt inspired to turn it into a thread.

The ad is humorous.

 

[Whatmore]

The real question is why were you sleuthing the Quadcity craigslist? The second question would be why you felt inspired to turn it into a thread. More white noise in cyberspace...

I have no knowledge of the secret elements of that amplifier, but I do know there's a significant trickle-down effect of technology from the aerospace and Military industrial complex into audio. Take Bybee filtering for example. Most of the mom-and-pop, artisanal audio companies don't have the R&D and manpower to develop this stuff and thus have a symbiotic relationship with outside sources of technology.

Regarding the Hydra. Dale always told me he worked on the case only. He also stated that Caelin was one of the few true geniuses in audio and held him in very high esteem.

is there any evidence of this ?

 

[MylesBAstor]

is there any evidence of this ?

Hell yeah with turntables being a prime example. The sort of machining tolerances in spindle and arm bearings in civilian life was unheard of until the end of Reagan's Star Wars. (Not to mention computer technology to drive these instruments) Then all these companies were forced to find civilian uses for their technologies.

Take air bearing tonearms for example where the materials and machining now allow for tolerances of 1/10,000th of an inch even allowing for materials coefficients of expansion. Or take the precision round out that turntable platters can be machined to. Or the motors used in the VPI and Continuum tables come from military submarine technology. Or the Silent Running Audio bases use technology developed to silence American subs. You can trace the impact even down to the resistors used in many audio components (how about military grade tubes too? )

 

[Geardaddy]

I wasn't.



The ad is humorous.

Nothing to be ashamed off. Its actually amazing what u can find. I have found a lot of incredible vintage gear on the list....

I agree. There is an element of dated hyperbole there. The amusing thing is I actually know who posted it. Duane has been in the industry for 20+ years and is slightly sullen and taciturn midwesterner. He is not one to exaggerate. He is a Princeton grad (music major) and no cream puff. He is a sophisticated listener who I have bought from and trust his judgement.

 

[Geardaddy]

Hell yeah with turntables being a prime example. The sort of machining tolerances in spindle and arm bearings in civilian life was unheard of until the end of Reagan's Star Wars. (Not to mention computer technology to drive these instruments) Then all these companies were forced to find civilian uses for their technologies.

Take air bearing tonearms for example where the materials and machining now allow for tolerances of 1/10,000th of an inch even allowing for materials coefficients of expansion. Or take the precision round out that turntable platters can be machined to. Or the motors used in the VPI and Continuum tables come from military submarine technology. Or the Silent Running Audio bases use technology developed to silence American subs. You can trace the impact even down to the resistors used in many audio components (how about military grade tubes too? )

Great post Myles. People have no clue.

 

[Whatmore]

Hell yeah with turntables being a prime example. The sort of machining tolerances in spindle and arm bearings in civilian life was unheard of until the end of Reagan's Star Wars. (Not to mention computer technology to drive these instruments) Then all these companies were forced to find civilian uses for their technologies.

Take air bearing tonearms for example where the materials and machining now allow for tolerances of 1/10,000th of an inch even allowing for materials coefficients of expansion. Or take the precision round out that turntable platters can be machined to. Or the motors used in the VPI and Continuum tables come from military submarine technology. Or the Silent Running Audio bases use technology developed to silence American subs. You can trace the impact even down to the resistors used in many audio components (how about military grade tubes too? )

Sorry Miles for my imprecise question (and thanks for your detailed answer btw) but I was referring specifically to bybees.