Taiko Audio SGM Extreme : the Crème de la Crème

[Taiko Audio]

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I’m sorry, but I don’t understand your line of argument.

The posts made state the following:

1. A heatsink temperature of 47 °C is nothing to worry about and is to be expected during a heatwave, in response to a question about that.
2. Additional information was provided that the heatsink is between 15 and 20 °C above ambient. This variation is due to decreasing efficiency at higher ambient temperatures.
3. AI provided information in response to your question, apparently about concerns regarding cores shutting down, that the CPU temperature is approximately 12 °C higher than the heatsink temperature. At 47 + 12 = 59 °C, this is still well below the throttling threshold. In fact, it’s 86 − 59 = 27 °C below the point where throttling would begin.

Why would we need to update the AI? Which information is incorrect?

 

[engadin]

No problem here.

I bought Noctua 200mm fans. Perfect for an occasional heat wave.
Not needed rest of the year.


No, I would not want to have a fan inside with mechanical and electrical noise (as minor as it is) close to sensitive electronics.

Cheers, Ulrich

 

[engadin]

How to download (dsd) files from a ssd with usb unto Taiko Extreme best?

Plug it into
- isp router (Fritzbox 5590) usb?
- Taiko router?
- directly Taiko Extreme?

Thx for your advice!

 

[joet]

You won't be able to use the Taiko router because it doesn't yet understand FAT file systems and publish them to the network, and it's unlikely the Extreme will see the ISP router. The fastest transfer speeds will be by inserting it into the Taiko itself. You can then do the transfer using another Windows box on the network or via VNC. You can also insert the drive into a Windows box on the network and do the transfer that way, but the transfer will be much slower.

 

[sbo6]

You won't be able to use the Taiko router because it doesn't yet understand FAT file systems and publish them to the network, and it's unlikely the Extreme will see the ISP router. The fastest transfer speeds will be by inserting it into the Taiko itself. You can then do the transfer using another Windows box on the network or via VNC. You can also insert the drive into a Windows box on the network and do the transfer that way, but the transfer will be much slower.

I'm unaware of a router caring about a file system type as the data is transmitted into packets meeting the TCP/IP protocol. Is this something specific to the limits of this device that's atypical of other routers/switches?

 

[joet]

I'm unaware of a router caring about a file system type as the data is transmitted into packets meeting the TCP/IP protocol. Is this something specific to the limits of this device that's atypical of other routers/switches?

The router doesn't care about a file system, per se, but the drive inserted into the router must be translated into a format Windows networking understands. Most likely the drive will contain a FAT file system, so the router needs to be able to recognize the file system and publish it in a way Windows can consume.Without this, the Extreme wont be able to acess the files inserted into the router. If I remember correctly, in an earlier post, Emile said this functionality for the router is planned in the future. Of course, my memory could be wrong, so please confirm this yourself.

 

[Christiaan Punter]

You won't be able to use the Taiko router because it doesn't yet understand FAT file systems and publish them to the network, and it's unlikely the Extreme will see the ISP router. The fastest transfer speeds will be by inserting it into the Taiko itself. You can then do the transfer using another Windows box on the network or via VNC. You can also insert the drive into a Windows box on the network and do the transfer that way, but the transfer will be much slower.

I'm unaware of a router caring about a file system type as the data is transmitted into packets meeting the TCP/IP protocol. Is this something specific to the limits of this device that's atypical of other routers/switches?

The router doesn't care about a file system, per se, but the drive inserted into the router must be translated into a format Windows networking understands. Most likely the drive will contain a FAT file system, so the router needs to be able to recognize the file system and publish it in a way Windows can consume.Without this, the Extreme wont be able to acess the files inserted into the router. If I remember correctly, in an earlier post, Emile said this functionality for the router is planned in the future. Of course, my memory could be wrong, so please confirm this yourself.

Indeed, when connected via USB, the drive's file system and its interface features have an impact on how the server's OS interacts with it. For now, full USB Drive functionality is not yet enabled, and we recommend connecting drives to the server directly.

 

[sbo6]

Indeed, when connected via USB, the drive's file system and its interface features have an impact on how the server's OS interacts with it. For now, full USB Drive functionality is not yet enabled, and we recommend connecting drives to the server directly.

I understand now, you're both talking about attaching a HDD via USB to the Taiko router.

You're partly correct - any device with a remote hard drive and irrespective of the connectivity type (USB, eSATA, Firewire) need to adhere to the respective protocols so the storage can be accessed should one deem so via ethernet.

Also, the hard drive's file system whether local to the server or remote needs to be of a type recognizable by the server's OS. Windows recognizes FAT32, NTFS and exFAT, there is no FAT, unless you're referring to the mostly extinct FAT16 which I believe you aren't.

Net - it's not about the file system and its interface features having an impact, it's simply enablement of your switch, which at this point sounds like it doesn't have as of yet.

 

[drjimwillie]

Hello Taiko loving friends,

I have built a DIY Extreme and I am trying to determine which PCIE slots to put the ethernet and USB cards.
I know which slots were originally used, and I understand that the cards have moved around after Taiko produced their own cards.
I have researched this and saw a recommendation from Taiko that places both cards in slot number two.
I submitted a ticket a couple of weeks ago, but have not received a response yet.

Will you please share with me which slots in your extreme hold the Taiko USB and ethernet cards?

I hope you are enjoying some good music, Will

 

[joet]

If I remember correctly, USB in 2 network in 5.

 

[joet]

If I remember correctly, USB in 2 network in 5.

My Extreme is packed and ready to ship back to Taiko. If possible, I'll try to get in and take a photo for you.

 

[gfroman]

Taiko Audio just updated my Extreme music server to the new XDMS Control Beta software.


Need to go back and see how it compares sonically to the music server in my EMM Labs DV2i.


If they are very close, I may end up selling the Extreme.


However, I have to admit this new update on the Extreme is simply superb!!


Just incredible imaging and the MBL speakers simply disappear…

 

[engadin]

Another thumbs up here for XDMS control Beta update!

 

[joet]

My Extreme is packed and ready to ship back to Taiko. If possible, I'll try to get in and take a photo for you.

I just checked the Extreme. USB 2, network 5. In mine, I had the network in 5 because I was connected to the DAC via Ethernet, and wasn't using the USB. So I swapped them.

 

[drjimwillie]

Hi Joet,
Thank you for the information and going through the effort of looking in your Extreme, I really appreciate it.

So yours is not the typical set up where the Extreme is going out USB to the DAC.

I am looking for the typical, current set up, where the Extreme is using the Taiko USB card out to the DAC.

 

[joet]

When I was using USB to the DAC, it was USB 2, Network 5. When I started using the network card to communicate to the DAC I swapped the 2. What I did is based upon whatever Emile said at the time.

 

[joet]

But to be clear, it's USB 2 and network 5. 2 is the slot to output to the DAC, 5 for input. That is what i recall being told

 

[MarkusBarkus]

...USB card in slot five is what I recall, but it's been a while. Taiko video install shows five, FWIW:

Taiko Audio Downloads – Taiko Audio

taikoaudio.com

 

[joet]

It's quite possible you're right. It's been a while for me, too. In my current set-up USB is in 5. I thought i swapped it from two because I was using the network card as output. But memory is a funny thing. What I can say with little equivocation is that it's 2 and 5 for USB and network, in one configuration or the other.

 

[joet]

Hi Joet,
Thank you for the information and going through the effort of looking in your Extreme, I really appreciate it.

So yours is not the typical set up where the Extreme is going out USB to the DAC.

I am looking for the typical, current set up, where the Extreme is using the Taiko USB card out to the DAC.

Sorry if I made this more confusing for you. Im certain one goes in 5 and the other in 2