Roy Gregory Names Clarisys Atrium/VAC System Best in Show

[Holmz]

I am on the Atrium, i tried several different crossoves and my favorite one is the DF75. I use different slopes and frequencies depending on the audiences taste and the kind of presentation i want. Electronic time alignement is a must in my opinion. Americans and Europeans have different tastes on playback and they value different sonic characteristics. Since i basically showed my private system in Munich, i also use different settings from home. A system like the Atrium is customized to taste; why spent all the money and effort just to be stuck with one signature? Cheers

Thank you sir.
Do you use a combo of listening and measurements?
I assume that the impulse response and maybe step function response get sharper with a small amount of time adjustment?
Anything to share would be interesting to see.

 

[Alrainbow]

One of the best amps I had from the past was a hybrid. It was from a Dutch company called Sphinx (owners were of Siltech and Crystal Cable fame). I had a model called Project 14 that was tube input and driver and MOSFET output. Was heavily biased towards Class A. Musical, very powerful and tonally very good. I would happily own one today if I had speakers that weren’t SET friendly.

Aries cerate makes a great hybrid two models I’ve heard

 

[Elliot G.]

I have in second system amp Thrax Heros MK II,one of the best amp listened in my life.
Mono amp,100 watt class A,input tube,output Mos fet

I have an amazing hybrid as well in the Riviera Labs. Their amps are tube input and SS output.

 

[Alrainbow]

Yes, the interview is thin on details but, in my experience, Florian (@ClarisysAudio) is very responsive to email inquiries. I suggest you reach out to him directly. I believe Clarisys is based in Switzerland but not certain. Perhaps @Ron Resnick can respond

If you consider every word he says gets taken apart and can be criticized why would he.
Florian is a great example of a designer going in many directions to achieve greatness. Trouble is some here are just looking to make things fail.
The man uses a 10k freq devider in the system to use at shows. I can’t imagine the time and understanding that’s needed.
what ever he is doing it’s to get that sound
I would think that’s enough effort

 

[Alrainbow]

I have an amazing hybrid as well in the Riviera Labs. Their amps are tube input and SS output.

Yes correct Elloit sorry forgot to say that amp and entire system to me was of the best sounds ever heard at a show
Put tears in my eyes not joking.
and how kind you are to attendees too

 

[Alrainbow]

would have loved to hear the asylvox too another amazing set up.
I have been to bob st rhapsody in brooklyn many times. Love his place and the asylvox he had there. Excellent sound too
I can’t imagine how the setup above must have sounded

 

[gian60]

I have an amazing hybrid as well in the Riviera Labs. Their amps are tube input and SS output.

Ciao,
Luca Chiomenti,designer and owner of Riviera,went in 1994 to my home to listen my full Audiotekne 3 way and trimped,He loved Audiotekne and was friend of Imai
I am very friend wth them and also Silvio,i tried 50 watt mono amp im my system,and my friend bought pre and mono amp 50 watt

 

[gian60]

I thought the Thrax room sounded excellent this year and they were using the Heros monos.

This room was among the 3/4 preferred together with Siltech.
Also Audionec has always a good sound

 

[bonzo75]

This room was among the 3/4 preferred together with Siltech.
Also Audionec has always a good sound

Audionec Thrax is a very good combo

 

[Audiohertz2]

One of the best amps I had from the past was a hybrid. It was from a Dutch company called Sphinx (owners were of Siltech and Crystal Cable fame). I had a model called Project 14 that was tube input and driver and MOSFET output. Was heavily biased towards Class A. Musical, very powerful and tonally very good. I would happily own one today if I had speakers that weren’t SET friendly.

Technically speaker , Hybrids are the best of both worlds and should be superior if done right .

Counterpoint Hybrids from many decades ago was the first serious look into what Hybrids could achieve IMO ..!

 

[Audiohertz2]

you are certainly entitled to your opinion. I as I said do not agree. I'm happy you visited Lyric I hope you were a client .
IMHO there is no contest in which the amplifiers ( all of them) are not better than they were in the 1980's.
The sentence that they were more musical is truly nothing more than your opinion. it is not mine nor many others.
I heard no amps from that era that sound better than the best of what is available today. There are more great products available today in every variety than in the 1980's and they are built better as well.
I think this forum has a million times over shown that there are no clear cut winners that everyone agrees upon.
If you prefer tubes, or vintage or whatever that is wonderful for you.

Just for kicks and giggles exactly what amps are you saying were so terrific?

I was not a customer , Lyric was my customer and i’m not specifically talking only 80’s designs per se . I notice you specified your amp of choice is a hybrid , i specifically said SS , not hybrids nor tubes. Notice also i have not mentioned any specific brand as this would not be appropriate up or down ..

So lets do it this way , go back to your front row center days , can you say any of the amplifiers you carried were unmusical , dry , clinical or very meh . You thought 80’s ML dark and this is the consensus by most , of the era , yet they were never meh and unmusical , nothing like the avg typical modern SS , bright and electronic sounding…

Paired properly they played music …

 

[Holmz]

If you consider every word he says gets taken apart and can be criticized why would he.
Florian is a great example of a designer going in many directions to achieve greatness. Trouble is some here are just looking to make things fail.

I am sure some do, but to paint it as people are doing snipper work is assigning intent with a bit of a broad brush stroke.
Some may just be interested and to understand what has been accomplished.

The man uses a 10k freq devider in the system to use at shows. I can’t imagine the time and understanding that’s needed.

But people have been doing similar things for decades.
And with DSPs it is easier than ever.

What is more interesting here is that it is on panels, which brings a unique set of good things to the table.
Getting rids of remaining “wrongs” with a DSP, makes some sense.

what ever he is doing it’s to get that sound
I would think that’s enough effort

That is exactly what some want to know. What he is doing and ho he arrived at it.
There is an idea and that gets implemented with either some structure or just trail and error... I suspect it is with a well structured approach, but I could be wrong.

 

[Alrainbow]

I was not trying to make all have bad intent but you don’t have to read many posts to see how fast things go bad.
whyle I can’t say what his approach is on this here.
when it comes to old apogees he is king to ask.
have you looked up the device used ?
I did and it’s description alone gave me a migran.
I’ve used dsp type devices to fix a system
it’s not just complex it’s knowing what’s needed.

 

[ClarisysAudio]

I will open a post on a different forum and give some insights there. I was warned by the owners of this forum, as a non paying member, to promote the brand. Apparently paying distributors conplained. I am fully transparent on the design and love to talk about it. With us your not buying the cat in the bag.

 

[Elliot G.]

I was not a customer , Lyric was my customer and i’m not specifically talking only 80’s designs per se . I notice you specified your amp of choice is a hybrid , i specifically said SS , not hybrids nor tubes. Notice also i have not mentioned any specific brand as this would not be appropriate up or down ..

So lets do it this way , go back to your front row center days , can you say any of the amplifiers you carried were unmusical , dry , clinical or very meh . You thought 80’s ML dark and this is the consensus by most , of the era , yet they were never meh and unmusical , nothing like the avg typical modern SS , bright and electronic sounding…

Paired properly they played music …

sorry I don't agree for the third time. There are many good SS amps. Which one I prefer may be a matter of taste or system matching but I respect that they make music. As I said your opinion is yours but the number of SS amps out there and sold is enormous and they are very popular.
Front Row center was the nineties and early 2000's. We sold ARC, Spectral, MLAS, Krell for a while and all of them played music and had pro's and con's MEH is not a serious word nor something I would ever subscribe too or say.
The amps I have heard and played with today are not bright nor thin or MEH as you say. I think your characterization is blatantly false , sorry but that's how I feel and I suspect all those out there that own Soulution, CH, EMM, Dartzeel, Gryphon, DAG, Westminster, Pilium, Boulder etc. would agree. These amps are ALL far superior to the stuff in the 80's and its not close. Sorry that's how I feel and your just presenting a truly weak argument with the only "thoughts of proof " are you opinion.
I also think that those who refuse to identify themselves and their position are truly just trolling and very hard to take with any degree of seriousness. But that's just me!

 

[morricab]

Aries cerate makes a great hybrid two models I’ve heard

Yes, I own one. It is not hybrid in the conventional sense though. It is single stage with a kind of compound element composed of a triode and a FET.

 

[Audiohertz2]

sorry I don't agree for the third time. There are many good SS amps. Which one I prefer may be a matter of taste or system matching but I respect that they make music. As I said your opinion is yours but the number of SS amps out there and sold is enormous and they are very popular.
Front Row center was the nineties and early 2000's. We sold ARC, Spectral, MLAS, Krell for a while and all of them played music and had pro's and con's MEH is not a serious word nor something I would ever subscribe too or say.
The amps I have heard and played with today are not bright nor thin or MEH as you say. I think your characterization is blatantly false , sorry but that's how I feel and I suspect all those out there that own Soulution, CH, EMM, Dartzeel, Gryphon, DAG, Westminster, Pilium, Boulder etc. would agree. These amps are ALL far superior to the stuff in the 80's and its not close. Sorry that's how I feel and your just presenting a truly weak argument with the only "thoughts of proof " are you opinion.
I also think that those who refuse to identify themselves and their position are truly just trolling and very hard to take with any degree of seriousness. But that's just me!

I must have missed where you gave more than your opinion and why are you stuck in the 80’s ..!

You need to work on your comprehension son , i did identify my position , do you need me to be more clear .

I’m sure WBF doesn't have enough bandwidth to list everyone who has been seriously disappointed by most of these SS Fagazy’s after a demo.

BTW ,
It’s getting so ridiculous nothing can be discussed on WBF anymore , good or bad because most are shilling for one product or another.

Now I'm not saying your SS choice is a Fagazy and your list above has good and some not so good, but thats on you, calling me a troll is just you running out of gas…!



Ciao

 

[Audiohertz2]

Yes, I own one. It is not hybrid in the conventional sense though. It is single stage with a kind of compound element composed of a triode and a FET.

Interesting, wouldn’t that make it a tube Hybrid ..?

 

[Elliot G.]

I must have missed where you gave more than your opinion and why are you stuck in the 80’s ..!

You need to work on your comprehension son , i did identify my position , do you need me to be more clear .

I’m sure WBF doesn't have enough bandwidth to list everyone who has been seriously disappointed by most of these SS Fagazy’s after a demo.

BTW ,
It’s getting so ridiculous nothing can be discussed on WBF anymore , good or bad because most are shilling for one product or another.

Now I'm not saying your SS choice is a Fagazy and your list above has good and some not so good, but thats on you, calling me a troll is just you running out of gas…!



Ciao

I must have missed where you gave more than your opinion and why are you stuck in the 80’s ..!

You need to work on your comprehension son , i did identify my position , do you need me to be more clear .

I’m sure WBF doesn't have enough bandwidth to list everyone who has been seriously disappointed by most of these SS Fagazy’s after a demo.

BTW ,
It’s getting so ridiculous nothing can be discussed on WBF anymore , good or bad because most are shilling for one product or another.

Now I'm not saying your SS choice is a Fagazy and your list above has good and some not so good, but thats on you, calling me a troll is just you running out of gas…!



Ciao

Its Fugazy!
Condescension is not attractive and neither are people who think they know everything. If you are going to dish it out you need to learn how to take it.

 

[Holmz]

I will open a post on a different forum and give some insights there. I was warned by the owners of this forum, as a non paying member, to promote the brand. Apparently paying distributors conplained. I am fully transparent on the design and love to talk about it. With us your not buying the cat in the bag.

This seems like a rule that could be broken…
@Ron Resnick is a forum co-owner, a dealer of the speakers, and he is the OP.

Or should I PM you directly to get a link?