Ron’s New System

[tima]

*) If, as you report in #5749, David Karmeli found even the empty room overdamped, that is quite a strange position to take, but not entirely surprising given his, let's say, unusual opinions.

It is not a 'strange position' or an 'unusual opinion'. It is not an opinion at all. It is an empirical observation based on actual listening, not on keyboarding. You are commenting on a component you've never heard. You seem to be assuming an empty room is inherently undamped.

 

[tima]

It's been fun to go for a value proposition for my digital leg of the source triad, and to see how much sound quality I can get for as relatively little money as possible. My entire digital set up, including cables, has an MSRP of under US$15,000.

Digital seems to suit you, Ron.

 

[Al M.]

It is not a 'strange position' or an 'unusual opinion'. It is not an opinion at all. It is an empirical observation based on actual listening, not on keyboarding. You are commenting on a component you've never heard. You seem to be assuming an empty room is inherently undamaged.

What a strange argument, Tim. As I said the post you partially quoted, I have heard that room, and it was not overdamped and instead, the sound in it was open and free. So if it was not overdamped being not empty, then how could it be overdamped in an empty state?

 

[tima]

What a strange argument, Tim. As I said the post you partially quoted, I have heard that room, and it was not overdamped and instead, the sound in it was open and free. So if it was not overdamped being not empty, then how could it be overdamped in an empty state?

You heard the room with acoustic treatments. You did not hear the empty room. You infer a conclusion on one based on your conclusion about the other. You keep telling us "I am a scientist" but that does not seem to reflect scientific method. Neither does finding unusual a conclusion from observation, as in David's case. You would have been better off without the gratuitous ddk remark.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Digital seems to suit you, Ron.

I was never good at math. I'm grateful that digital is only 0s and 1s.

 

[PeterA]

It's been fun to go for a value proposition for my digital leg of the source triad, and to see how much sound quality I can get for as relatively little money as possible. My entire digital set up, including cables, has an MSRP of under US$15,000.

A lot of people spend less than $15,000 on their digital. Do you think that is cheap?

 

[Al M.]

You heard the room with acoustic treatments. You did not hear the empty room. You infer a conclusion on one based on your conclusion about the other. You keep telling us "I am a scientist" but that does not seem to reflect scientific method. Neither does finding unusual a conclusion from observation, as in David's case. You would have been better off without the gratuitous ddk remark.

I am certain other people will follow the logic of my reasoning just fine.

 

[Al M.]

You would have been better off without the gratuitous ddk remark.

I was only reacting to a remark that was made.

But hey, I get it: Never question the Master.

 

[bonzo75]

I was never good at math. I'm grateful that digital is only 0s and 1s.

Analog will be difficult for you, it is more calculus as it is a continuous function

 

[tima]

I am certain other people will follow the logic of my reasoning just fine.

Validity is one thing but somewhere truth value is required for a good conclusion. You reason not with facts but with unfounded assumptions as your premise.

 

[christoph]

A lot of people spend less than $15,000 on their digital. Do you think that is cheap?

For WBF standards it actually IS rather on the affordable side

 

[spiritofmusic]

A lot of people spend less than $15,000 on their digital. Do you think that is cheap?

I do remember mentioning to normal human beings that my audiophile fuses *only cost* £100 each.
I got *that* look, lol.

 

[bonzo75]

I do remember mentioning to normal human beings that my audiophile fuses *only cost* £100 each.
I got *that* look, lol.

I don’t remember you mentioning this to me

 

[Al M.]

Validity is one thing but somewhere truth value is required for a good conclusion. You reason not with facts but with unfounded assumptions as your premise.

That's pretty funny.

 

[Ron Resnick]

Analog will be difficult for you, it is more calculus as it is a continuous function

I find analog more natural and intuitive.

And I like tape, especially, because it uses big parts.

 

[bonzo75]

I find analog more natural and intuitive.

And I like tape, especially, because it uses big parts.

Sorry that was a math joke

 

[PeterA]

I find analog more natural and intuitive.

And I like tape, especially, because it uses big parts.

Ron, Natural and intuitive is a very interesting way to describe the listening experience of different audio formats. Could you expand a bit on what you mean by “intuitive”?

 

[Ron Resnick]

Ron, Natural and intuitive is a very interesting way to describe the listening experience of different audio formats. Could you expand a bit on what you mean by “intuitive”?

By "intuitive" in that sentence I did not mean a sonic attribute. I meant only that the concept of analog recording and analog reproduction makes sense to me intuitively. It makes sense to me that someone sings into a microphone and a continuous waveform is recorded, and then, later, that continuous waveform is reproduced.

 

[spiritofmusic]

I don’t remember you mentioning this to me

You *always* had that look. You probably still do.

 

[Ron Resnick]

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