Reference Turntable, The Step Beyond

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The best Performance i ever hear is the first version of Brakemeier Apolyt.
The dynamic is incridible, one note from a piano and you know you listen to a special turntable.
He conveys quietly in the background of the music, you really have to hear it. definitely a lasting memory forever.
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How many did he make?
 

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The best Performance i ever hear is the first version of Brakemeier Apolyt.
The dynamic is incridible, one note from a piano and you know you listen to a special turntable.
He conveys quietly in the background of the music, you really have to hear it. definitely a lasting memory forever.
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No disrsepect but you need to spend time with real turntables this thing was ok but this thing doesn’t belong in this group of turntables.

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DasguteOhr

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No disrsepect but you need to spend time with real turntables this thing was ok but this thing doesn’t belong in this group of turntables.

david
Ok...I will hold back and say nothing about micro seiki, have a nice day..
 

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Ok...I will hold back and say nothing about micro seiki, have a nice day..
I see you have a Silvaweld preamp...I love Silvaweld and had a SWC450 and a SWC 1000 back in the day. I also had their big OTL monos and still have a SWH650 phonostage that I love dearly.

I would say if you have a comment on what someone else thinks about turntables you should open up and write what you want. Don't let DDK bully you into silence. He is strong and outspoken but not always right.
 

DasguteOhr

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Hi,
Love the clear open Sound too from Silvaweld
On topic i had from 1996-2000 a Micro Seiki 8000( series I )i buy it from Japan direct,with AX 5G Base Fr 64s Kiseki Agaat i know what is sound like
Audio Research SP10,Krell KSA Monos and Martin Logan CLS.
Twenty years ago sounds good,today i would do some things to make Micro Seiki better.
 

ddk

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I see you have a Silvaweld preamp...I love Silvaweld and had a SWC450 and a SWC 1000 back in the day. I also had their big OTL monos and still have a SWH650 phonostage that I love dearly.

I would say if you have a comment on what someone else thinks about turntables you should open up and write what you want. Don't let DDK bully you into silence. He is strong and outspoken but not always right.
Not a matter of bullying Brad or what people should like, this thread is about certain level of turntables and I’d like to keep it exclusive to this category and not dilute it. There other turntables we can add here but the old Apolyt as simply doesn’t belong in this group. Many excellent turntables I left out from this group for the same reason.

david
 

morricab

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Not a matter of bullying Brad or what people should like, this thread is about certain level of turntables and I’d like to keep it exclusive to this category and not dilute it. There other turntables we can add here but the old Apolyt as simply doesn’t belong in this group. Many excellent turntables I left out from this group for the same reason.

david
Clearly the responder felt it did belong in the elite group and your dismissiveness, without explanation as to why, made him to comment that he will not contribute further. That is bullying. If you had taken time to explain why you don't think it fits in this exclusive group (I haven't heard it to comment) then it would have been a different situation.
 

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Ok...I will hold back and say nothing about micro seiki, have a nice day..

I am always interested in Micro Seiki impressions as I've not heard those tables myself. Which models have you evaluated, and what are your takeaways?

Edit: I see you're referring to the 8000-I. What are its sonic strengths and weaknesses?
 

ddk

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Clearly the responder felt it did belong in the elite group and your dismissiveness, without explanation as to why, made him to comment that he will not contribute further. That is bullying. If you had taken time to explain why you don't think it fits in this exclusive group (I haven't heard it to comment) then it would have been a different situation.
Brad we're not 6 year olds in first grade not to be direct in our conversation I was very clear regarding my reason for dismissing the Apolyt. I suggest you take personal matters offline where they belong!

david
 

morricab

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Brad we're not 6 year olds in first grade not to be direct in our conversation I was very clear regarding my reason for dismissing the Apolyt. I suggest you take personal matters offline where they belong!

david
If you mean post #202, all I can say is :rolleyes:. That is what passes as an explanation to you? It is a blunt dismissal, nothing more.
 

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Brad we're not 6 year olds in first grade not to be direct in our conversation I was very clear regarding my reason for dismissing the Apolyt. I suggest you take personal matters offline where they belong!

david
Maybe I missed something, but I also can’t find an explanation why the Apolyt was skipped.
As fare as I know, there were 2 versions manufactured with different types of air bearing - maybe this does also matter.
 
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If you mean post #202, all I can say is :rolleyes:. That is what passes as an explanation to you? It is a blunt dismissal, nothing more.
Of course I dismissed that Apolyt from this group! Do you have something to contribute regarding the tts or you want to manage me?

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Maybe I missed something, but I also can’t find an explanation why the Apolyt was skipped.
As fare as I know, there were 2 versions manufactured with different types of air bearing - maybe this does also matter.
I'll be happy to talk about the Apolyt in another thread if needed, this is a very distinct thread about a certain level of turntables and I want to keep it that way for people who start reading from the end.

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Of course I dismissed that Apolyt from this group! Do you have something to contribute regarding the tts or you want to manage me?

david
No, but if you are going to dismiss a proposal of a TT that someone thinks is worthy you need to give at least your opinion (and let's be clear that is what it is) of the sonic traits where it fails to reach your definition of an ultimate level TT.
 
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I'll be happy to talk about the Apolyt in another thread if needed, this is a very distinct thread about a certain level of turntables and I want to keep it that way for people who start reading from the end.

david
Thanks.
No need for another thread, I was just curious to learn more about where you see that the Apolyt is inferior.
 

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I am always interested in Micro Seiki impressions as I've not heard those tables myself. Which models have you evaluated, and what are your takeaways?

Edit: I see you're referring to the 8000-I. What are its sonic strengths and weaknesses?
Hi,
I send you PM. Here is not right place i don't want distub
 
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Hi,
I send you PM. Here is not right place i don't want distub
Stephan I disagree with your decision.
I want to believe that Whats best forums is a society where everyone can express his opinion and experiences.
 

ddk

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Hi,
I send you PM. Here is not right place i don't want distub
Dear DasguteOhr,
Please feel free and go ahead and discuss the 8000 here my comment was simply limited to that model Apolyt, nothing to do with the 8000 or any of these this level tts, positive or negative.

david
 

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