Re-clockers....

[Tim F]

Just picked up an Ideon just to see what the fuss is about. Only the 3R but I'll put a decent psu on it before evaluation. There are a number of these coming onto the market and I'm hearing more about them.

Are you sold on the need for these?
Has anyone compared any against each other?

Cheers, Tim

 

[Empirical Audio]

I use the SOtM tx-USBUlra. Makes a big difference. About $800-$1200 I think.

 

[cmarin]

Just picked up an Ideon just to see what the fuss is about. Only the 3R but I'll put a decent psu on it before evaluation. There are a number of these coming onto the market and I'm hearing more about them.

Are you sold on the need for these?
Has anyone compared any against each other?

Cheers, Tim

I recently installed a second reclocker in my TotalDac d1-12 mkII that is daisy chained with the first reclocker on the advice of the designer. It made a significant positive difference in my system.

You can definitely consider me sold on the need for reclockers.

 

[CKKeung]

Listened to SOtM tx-USBultra and Totaldac Reclocker.
Both can give significant sonic improvement.

However, not directly compared them & the newer products such as Innuo Phornix yet.

 

[Tim F]

Very interesting that on audio science they pre-suppose that noise floor and small amounts of jitter are not important. There must be something going on here for these units to make improvements that a) they are not measuring or b) the results of them are actually audible or c) as they like to believe, everyone is deluded.

 

[Golum]

Well from several guys now (with ears i trust) i heard that cascading two re-clockers makes a dramatic improvement across the board - so it goes hand in hand what @cmarin just said above.
I'm still awaiting to install Ideon big reclocker into server to avoid having one more box in the shelf...

 

[Blackmorec]

Logically, if you are going to place reclockers in series you need to ensure that the most accurate clock and superior power supply come last. I tried a reclocker with my Innuos Zenith SE which was fed by a fully optimised network stream and it was clearly a downgrade, likely to do with the power supplies i used to drive it.

 

[Al M.]

Very interesting that on audio science they pre-suppose that noise floor and small amounts of jitter are not important. There must be something going on here for these units to make improvements that a) they are not measuring or b) the results of them are actually audible or c) as they like to believe, everyone is deluded.

They are deluded. The Audio Science forum, or at least Amir, also thinks MQA is a good thing. Nuff said.

 

[cmarin]

Logically, if you are going to place reclockers in series you need to ensure that the most accurate clock and superior power supply come last. I tried a reclocker with my Innuos Zenith SE which was fed by a fully optimised network stream and it was clearly a downgrade, likely to do with the power supplies i used to drive it.

To be clear, both of the daisy-chained reclockers used in my totaldac d1-12 mkII setup are identical totaldac d1-digital reclockers and both are powered, along with the two dac monoblocks, by a single upgraded totaldac “live-power” power supply unit.

 

[Brucemck2]

I use the SOtM tx-USBUlra. Makes a big difference. About $800-$1200 I think.

Me too. Noticeable improvement. I have not tried chaining.

 

[microstrip]

They are deluded. The Audio Science forum, or at least Amir, also thinks MQA is a good thing. Nuff said.

Considering just sound quality, ignoring the politics and our beliefs, IMHO MQA is a good thing.

 

[Al M.]

Considering just sound quality, ignoring the politics and our beliefs, IMHO MQA is a good thing.

"and our beliefs": you mean, technical facts.

 

[microstrip]

"and our beliefs": you mean, technical facts.

What particular technical facts are you addressing?

 

[Al M.]

The ones that you can easily look up, if you are interested, such that MQA is lossy compression, and that the "deblurring" of timing is bogus.

But enough of that, sorry for the distraction. This is a thread about reclockers.

 

[Empirical Audio]

Very interesting that on audio science they pre-suppose that noise floor and small amounts of jitter are not important. There must be something going on here for these units to make improvements that a) they are not measuring or b) the results of them are actually audible or c) as they like to believe, everyone is deluded.

I'm certainly not spending $1200 on something that may be placebo. It delivers improvement.

 

[jackelsson]

Adding one Mutec MC3+ USB reclocker between streamer and DAC brought a clear improvement to my system in terms of resolution an realness. Experiments with a second cascaded Mutec brought even more improvements but seemed to also suck out liveliness a bit. For the time being I kept just one of the Mutec reclockers but will certainly experiment with cascading again.

 

[Tim F]

By the way Empirical what's this about? EMO EN-70e isolator

 

[Empirical Audio]

By the way Empirical what's this about? EMO EN-70e isolator

This is an inexpensive way to get an improvement. Use a short Ethernet cable from a router to the isolator and then a longer cable from isolator to a switch. This eliminates most of the capacitively coupled noise.

 

[Tim F]

Ah thanks that's useful info. I'm running Wifi into my streamer at the moment.

 

[Roasty]

I am using the sotm txusbultra with mods. Has anyone compared the txusbultra with the (more expensive) innuos phoenix reclocker? There is a local dealer who has brand new sealed sets, but no demo unit in the shop, and also no home audition available..