Understood. But I stream from local files & qobuz streaming in Roon which switches back & forth as Roon Radio plays. So I guess based on the response I will have one or the other optimized...but not both.
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We haven’t tested this exact setup where the switch acts as the gateway between the server and the DAC, so it’d be great if you could share your findings once you’ve tried it.
Once you manage to drop the noise floor low enough, you’ll clearly hear how much noise the server introduces when reading local files — and it’s quite significant.
The Discovery Veridion Power Strip plays a key role in lowering that noise floor, and grounding (both signal and power) also makes a big difference. We’re already working on a grounding box that will be part of the Discovery Series — more news on that soon.
I think my Veridion DC cable has stabilized now and I'm still shocked at how much it influenced the sound on my system when used with a switch.
Anas sent a power cable to try out and that went in last night so I'll listen after work today. Since that switch feeds my video setup as well, I saw immediate improvements in the picture on the tv. More detail on 1080p channels with better colour saturation. Was not expecting it so quick.
Will report back once I listen to the audio system.
Arun
Anas sent a power cable to try out and that went in last night so I'll listen after work today. Since that switch feeds my video setup as well, I saw immediate improvements in the picture on the tv. More detail on 1080p channels with better colour saturation. Was not expecting it so quick.
Will report back once I listen to the audio system.
Arun
A bit of context about why I ask so many upstream questions. My system has always responded most to changes at the start of the chain, and Veridion made it much easier to explore that in a controlled way.
Since separating my audio network from the home network, with or without managed switches, also trying a dedicated 4G router (Wi-Fi disabled) with a good PSU, a separate WAP, and a quality LAN cable, I’ve noticed clear improvements. Disconnecting non-essential devices also lowered the noise floor. Audiophile switches also improved local playback from my server and streamer even though today I prefer music streaming services (and while I’m not listening exclusively to Streaming Redbook files yet, I understand from you that they currently give the best results with Veridion).
What surprised me most was how strongly different ISP Gateways and routers affected sound quality. I wasn’t trying many models, I just moved house three times while keeping the same setup. The sonic differences were very apparent. Gateways and routers themselves are hard to improve ourselves, and almost no true audiophile devices exist, which is why Veridion cables on LAN, AC, and DC made immediate sense to me. If treating the ONT or modem upstream proves even more valuable, we can achieve this with Veridion.
In my experience I think looking upstream first is worth trying. As you confirmed, even though Discovery Series impact varies across components, prioritizing upstream gives the clearest benefits. But of course, everyone should be happy with however they prefer to experience Veridion.
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Work has been crazy busy and by the time I get home, I'm too tired to do any serious listening. So finally got a chance to play some music with 48 hrs on the Veridion PC.
Strange phenomenon that when you upgrade the network, even local storage benefits from the lower noise floor on the network. But I purposefully streamed music and well, suffice to say, the PC won't be going back. This may be the first time I've felt that streaming music sounds better than local storage in my system. Incredible improvement. All the hifi terms apply of course and now things are coming out of the wood works it seems - similar to what the Taiko Olympus does. Spooky soundstage and imaging. It's really bringing out the best of my system. But as I alluded to before, it's that sense of presence and realism, rare in even very expensive systems, that gets my attention. I love it.
Video has also benefited. I could see the effects in 1080p upscaled to 4k but true 4k is the best its ever been. The IPTV boxes compress heavily but the QSAL helps to reduce most of the errors and artifacts. It has to be seen to be believed.
I told a good friend that the discovery Veridion line might just be the best vfm cable in audio today. I will be adding a few more cables, including the coax to feed the ISP cable modem.
Great job and thank you for the entry level pricing - hope it lasts.
Arun
Strange phenomenon that when you upgrade the network, even local storage benefits from the lower noise floor on the network. But I purposefully streamed music and well, suffice to say, the PC won't be going back. This may be the first time I've felt that streaming music sounds better than local storage in my system. Incredible improvement. All the hifi terms apply of course and now things are coming out of the wood works it seems - similar to what the Taiko Olympus does. Spooky soundstage and imaging. It's really bringing out the best of my system. But as I alluded to before, it's that sense of presence and realism, rare in even very expensive systems, that gets my attention. I love it.
Video has also benefited. I could see the effects in 1080p upscaled to 4k but true 4k is the best its ever been. The IPTV boxes compress heavily but the QSAL helps to reduce most of the errors and artifacts. It has to be seen to be believed.
I told a good friend that the discovery Veridion line might just be the best vfm cable in audio today. I will be adding a few more cables, including the coax to feed the ISP cable modem.
Great job and thank you for the entry level pricing - hope it lasts.
Arun
Thanks for the feedback. I can see that your set up includes many high end components that cost upwards of 5 figures sum which leaves many in envy. However, when u mentioned a $250 PC that could make u feel that this is the first time that streaming music sounds better local storage, it somehow gave the impression that this sort of eclipses the effects/improvements provided by many other much more expensive audio gears that you purchased earlier. Frankly not trying to be offensive, it seems a bit exaggerating to me.
I dont doubt Veridion PC, if not i wont be following this thread with much interest. And in fact, I also bought a few cables to try out of curiosity. Just thought that sometimes we should still try to be fair and realistic when giving our reviews so that the accurate (as much as it can be) representation can benefit the other readers and not skew the judgement/decision-making in any way.
I only tried out Veridion because a member on here with 5 figure cables preferred them.
Why isn't it fair to prefer cheaper over dearer? Would you be as concerned the other way around?
Not sure about others, but to think that a $250 PC can surpass even components (not only cables) from other high-end brands such as Taiko, Ansuz, Rockna etc seems a tad far fetch and unfathomable to me
While I haven’t been a fan of Ana’s’ voicing so far, and have returned a couple of cables, wouldn’t it be prudent to wait until the gear arrives and has been burned in before commenting? I don’t who adamley is referring to, but I do know someone here with well into six figures in gear who is selling his five and four figure QSA-Lanedri Ultimatum and Gamma series cables after listening to the Discovery cables and power strip.
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Therefore, we're not being fair? That's very peculiar.
I would think the manner in which people dismiss lower cost cables/devices for more expensive is more commonplace and should be more of a concern to all of us as audiophiles.
In any case, we look forward to hearing your feedback once you receive your order.
fair enough, i do also hope that im proven wrong and indeed Veridion can replace my other much more expensive cables or even components (based on Adamaley). That will save me a ton! And i will definitely get more Veridion cables
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i guess maybe u did not get my point. I dont dismiss the possibility of a lower end cable being better than the more expensive cables. I'm referring to a lower end cable surpassing even high end components such as Taiko Exteme, Ansuz Powerswitch D2, Rockna Wavestream Dac etc (anything from his current setup).
If u still think this is fair, then i rest my case
I don't think you understood him. He said he has improved his network delivery system by adding either Veridion cables/Veridion power strip to the network components. This has caused his streaming music to now sound better than locally stored music. The streamed music is still going through his streamer, therefore, no Veridion product is replacing his streamer. The streamer actually plays a critical role in the overall sound.
What I'm interested in knowing is whether the streamer is powered by Veridion cables and/or Veridion power strip.
Pushing the noise floor down far enough that you can actually hear how noisy local files are was a huge milestone for us on this journey. Congratulations, Arun, on reaching this level with your setup — and I’m really glad the Discovery series played a part in getting you there.
If you haven’t already, try comparing Redbook streaming vs. Hi-Res. It was honestly eye-opening for us. You can clearly hear how much of the sound’s richness gets lost in the Hi-Res versions. Redbook streaming ends up giving the most natural, lively, and engaging experience overall.
As part of our R&D, we’ve been applying Veridion technology to IPTV boxes as well. What you experienced with the Discovery Veridion cables is just a glimpse of what this technology can do for components. Honestly, there are no words to fully describe how the Veridion-treated IPTV transforms the realism of the picture. It’s absolutely breathtaking — watching TV turns into a true transportation experience.
We’re pushing hard to release the new components we’re developing, and we’re working against the clock to make them available as soon as possible.
Every time a new member discovers the same joy we found for ourselves, that’s how we measure success on this journey. Thank you for sharing your feedback!
There are so many claims out there, and it’s completely natural to be skeptical — especially when bold promises are made by so many brands. And yes, the skepticism only gets stronger when a confidential, proprietary technology is said to transform even a $5 Amazon cable.
But the genuine impact of this technology is exactly what pushed us to start this brand in the first place, and we truly believe that time is always on the side of the truth. When each of us shares our real experience with the Discovery series, it encourages others to give themselves a chance to try it as well.
“Revealing the Hidden Potential” isn’t just a marketing slogan — it’s exactly what the Veridion technology is designed to do. The cables we sell are really just carriers for that technology, which is why comparing them to other cables isn’t always a fair, apples-to-apples comparison.
This might sound strange at first, but while other brands try to achieve improvements through design tweaks, exotic materials, or complex constructions, we approach the problem from a completely different angle. Instead of fighting against the natural limitations of conductors, we alter the conductors from the inside, removing those limitations altogether. The Discovery series was created to showcase this concept by applying Veridion to the most basic, everyday cables.
Traditional manufacturers constantly face trade-offs — improve one aspect and another gets worse. That’s the nature of conventional cable design. With Veridion, we bypass that cycle entirely, because the transformation happens inside the conductor itself. That’s what makes this technology unique.
Right now, we’re offering cables that allow components to operate at their true potential. But the vision is much bigger: we’re working to apply Veridion to every component in the audio and video chain. We genuinely believe this will mark a new era for the AV world. Just like a $5 Monoprice cable can embarrass high-end cables when treated with Veridion, a basic streamer or DAC could eventually challenge high-end gear once its internal conductors are transformed.
A lot of fun is ahead — as long as we can maintain the economies of scale with the Discovery series.
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It might not be meaningful without a proper A/B comparison, but just as recording a listening session fails to capture the emotional impact of being there, recording a TV image cannot convey the connection you feel during the actual experience. This photo is simply a smartphone snapshot of the TV streaming through Discovery Veridion power strip, AC cables, DC cables, Ethernet cable and also an IPTV box with Veridion.
Edited: and also a Discovery Veridion Coax RG11 cable.
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Mr. Willem Dafoe is in the room, giving me a hard time with that intense look and haunting voice. The zoom feature on the smartphone was used for this snapshot.
Beyond the pixelation from the smartphone’s zoom, the realism makes it feel as if the photo were taken of him live in the room.
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Apparently u still don't get where I'm driving at
May I suggest u read them again and if not I'll take the liberty to break it down further for u.
There are a myriad ways of saying a new cable is improving your system. But by saying "this is maybe the FIRST TIME the streaming music sounds better than local storage" is over the top considering his earlier audio purchases. What does first time mean? In other words, he didn't have this feeling when he upgraded his Taiko source, Ansuz switch, Rockna dac. But this is the FIRST time he felt it after he changed to Veridion PC.
I hope this clarifies for u
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