MUNCHEN 2025 MOC / MARRIOTT The final Chapter !

[Nakor]

So what is special about Beryllium? After Takajo San, a hifi and music critic joined Goto in the 60s, he led the R&D at Goto to record acoustic instruments live and to try and reproduce them through Goto drivers. Listening, rather than measurements, was his style. Goto’s R&D went down this road, and ended up changing their aluminum diaphragms (then the most widely used in Altec, JBL, Goto etc) to titanium. After that, Takajo San started recording sounds of chirping insects and other sounds from nature to test his drivers. This effort to reproduce sounds of nature led Goto to develop Beryllium diaphragms.

The Be diaphragms changed to duralumin in 2005 only because of the cost, as Be became very expensive due to countries using it for defense/atomic purposes. But their upper models continue to be Beryllium

TAD horns/Cessaro are Be, as as are horns Universum. Does it have brightness downside if not managed correctly? Yes

The latest Horns Universum doesn't use beryllium drivers, rather aluminium and polyester. This according to Lukasz.

 

[bonzo75]

The latest Horns Universum doesn't use beryllium drivers, rather aluminium and polyester. This according to Lukasz.

Costs must have hit

 

[cjfrbw]

Be: exotic, toxic, expensive and difficult vapor deposition process, best combination of hardness and lightness. I think that largely fills Nelson Pass' descriptors of a perfect audiophile product regardless of performance.

 

[D.Duttilleux]

If I had to choose 1 mid/high driver as the titleholder of 'best ever', it would be this one. Even without ever hearing it myself.

 

[matthias]

If I had to choose 1 mid/high driver as the titleholder of 'best ever', it would be this one. Even without ever hearing it myself.

G.T.Sound ?

 

[D.Duttilleux]

 

[andromedaaudio]

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How can you declare its the best , u just said you never heard it yourself.

 

[aubreyBobb]

Very few members, except Andromeda, have reported about Stenheim this year.
Stereophile did (Ken Micallef, Jason Victor Serinus, JVS):

https://www.stereophile.com/content...delity-boulder-pink-faun-and-turntable-waited

 

[aubreyBobb]

For me the Steinheim demo was among the top 5 demos in the show. Best was the Silbatone (note the horn loudspeakers were not for sale) followed by the big alysvox. After that Steinheim, Kharma, acoustic fono (not sure if thats the correct spelling). Acora was brilliant for its size (only heard the bookshelf).

 

[D.Duttilleux]

How can you declare its the best , u just said you never heard it yourself.

I know a few people who did and whose opinions I trust.

 

[D.Duttilleux]

For me the Steinheim demo was among the top 5 demos in the show. Best was the Silbatone (note the horn loudspeakers were not for sale) followed by the big alysvox. After that Steinheim, Kharma, acoustic fono (not sure if thats the correct spelling). Acora was brilliant for its size (only heard the bookshelf).

Did you or anyone else get a chance to hear the GIP 7331 system?

 

[sonrock]

I did, they sounded really good when I was there too. I think they played the same piano track and then a jazz one.

 

[D.Duttilleux]

It's this 18" woofer you've been listening to (including some flaws in the translation, but it's readable):

 

[D.Duttilleux]

The driver attached to the radial horn is an exact replica of 'the second best ever' on my list
Actually it should be number 1, given its historical significance.

 

[andromedaaudio]

Found a nice vid Peter breuninger made ( RIP ) on FMA gear where manuel explains the FMA approach

 

[morricab]

Did you or anyone else get a chance to hear the GIP 7331 system?

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I thought they merely sounded ok…

 

[analyzer]

I havent heard a really good allround horn set up at The munchen show .

Most were shouty / to prominent i couldnt stay in the room.very long .

Listened to a nice organ today in Torino .

What a pity to haven't meet there! I live in Torino and this Is the organ located in the San Filippo Neri's church!
Maybe in your next visit in our Town.
All the best

Marco

 

[108CY]

The Vyger system sounded a bit strident to me, especially in the treble, probably not helped by being played too loud IMO. For anyone interested, there is a pair of the speakers for sale in the UK currently.

The pair in the Uk are the original prototype pair with the mdf cabinets quite different sounding to production versions with resin cabinets.

 

[D.Duttilleux]

I thought they merely sounded ok…

G.I.P./WE is first and foremost a source of inspiration.
A reminder of the origin of audio and testimony to the enormous technological progress that was already made before WWII.

G.I.P. systems are designed according to the requirements and usage of that era, nearly 100 years ago.
So you won't get full range coverage - which may immediately turn off bassheads, and you cannot compare directivity to say a Stendheim, Vyger or any typical modern column speaker.
The Field Coil technology requires a lot of know how and 'feel', which alone makes it not a serious option for me.
I completely agree with Holger Barske's findings (from the PDF).

 

[andromedaaudio]

What a pity to haven't meet there! I live in Torino and this Is the organ located in the San Filippo Neri's church!
Maybe in your next visit in our Town.
All the best

Marco

Thank you .
Italy is a beautifull country with stunning old architecture