Shocked was an understatement lol I about peed my pants when I heard his bedroom system. I didn't think that would be possible, not like that. That whole day was quite the treat to say the least.
Master Built-What are Owners Hearing That They Didn't Hear With Other Cables
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Shocked was an understatement lol I about peed my pants when I heard his bedroom system. I didn't think that would be possible, not like that. That whole day was quite the treat to say the least.
Hi Jack,
On your post #319, I am confident trying non MIT cables on all the Spectral equipment I have as I have been doing so with them since before. I would be more careful with the newest Spectrals though. The dealer told me that for the current Spectrals, it is required for him by the factory to make a personal installation. Having said that, I heard a Spectral DMC 30SV with DMA 400 using Gotham interconnects, Daniel Hertz speaker cables, and Sensory Power power cords sounding fabulous. My first Spectral equipment dates back more than 30 years.
On my bedroom system, I am always curious on the potential of equipment. Mini monitors are fun for me because aside from being easy to set up, move around, and store, I have surprised many visitors with their capabilities. And, thank you for your kind words.
On your post #319, I am confident trying non MIT cables on all the Spectral equipment I have as I have been doing so with them since before. I would be more careful with the newest Spectrals though. The dealer told me that for the current Spectrals, it is required for him by the factory to make a personal installation. Having said that, I heard a Spectral DMC 30SV with DMA 400 using Gotham interconnects, Daniel Hertz speaker cables, and Sensory Power power cords sounding fabulous. My first Spectral equipment dates back more than 30 years.
On my bedroom system, I am always curious on the potential of equipment. Mini monitors are fun for me because aside from being easy to set up, move around, and store, I have surprised many visitors with their capabilities. And, thank you for your kind words.
Two days ago, I removed the Spectral DMA 360 S2 and replaced them with a pair of Croft mono blocks. From the rear of the room, the flavor is the same, sonically, I didn't think the sound changed. I still heard the richness of details, the density of the images, and the sound was just as pleasant and effortless, the equipment swap was not very noticeable. Then I reclined into my listening seat. Now I can detect some differences. Foremost is the soundstage is different, it is not as deep, there wasn't much behind the speakers, the rear of the soundstage ended with the back wall of the room; it is now projected from the speakers' front into the room. I am missing the defined layering the Spectrals so beautifully presented. Voices' and instruments' sound were still the same.
Very interesting. This reminds me of my push-pull triode monoblocks before and after insertion of external power supplies feeding them. Among other important benefits, these external supplies greatly reduced electronic noise into the signal pathway. The result, next to greater timbral resolution, was much more spatial layering, a less upfront presentation on many recordings, and much better revelation of hall acoustics from the recording. The reason is that in the absence of the electronic noise the low-level spatial information comes through much more. It appears that, in a similar manner, the Spectral amps preserve that low-level information better than the Croft monoblocks.
I've always wondered what role Spectral played in the layering of the sound stage. Every time I've heard them it's been with dCS digital, which also is known for layering. If only Spectral didn't require a networked cable...
Prior to rotating the Spectral out, in the 8 days that the ultra cables have joined the chain, the sound created had reached a point that I had lost the ability to stay focused in analytical listening. I would try but in 15 seconds or less, I find myself taken by the music. This combination made up of the Hegel Mohican, FM Acoustic 268C, Spectral DMA 360 S2, and stacked Metaphor 2 speakers, using all MasterBuilt ultra cables except for the stock power cord of the FM Acoustic and the FM Acoustic IC from the FMA 268C to the Spectrals, has to my ears lost all familiar colorations. It does not sound digital, it does not sound analogue, It is neither transistor or tube. It is just gorgeous music that pulls me in again and again. I lost my desire to be an audiophile. I just wanted to be carried away and be one with the music. I think I am selectively deaf, I just hear music pure, refined, detailed and effortless. I became very curious. I have to investigate if this is the color of the MB ultra. The croft is extremely different from the Spectral, it only has 1/4 the power output, it only has RCA input, and it is tubed. I will continue to listen. My post #327 are my early observations. I am entering my 4th hour listening and I hear the part of the soundstage behind the speakers continue to develop.
Hi Steve,
On post #330, we have to remember that in my opinion and experience, even if I do not find network cables necessary for Spectrals, it is still the factory that will extend the product's warranty according to the conditions they have set forth. Having Ian or any other Spectral owners sacrifice their warranties might be asking too much.
What really caught my attention with the DMA 360 was its ability to sound delicate despite its power output. By the time I received my units, it was already the series 2. From the DMC 20 preamp onwards, I had always used MIT cables with Spectrals. It's only with the DMA 360 that I have tried other IC, SC and PC with. I was happy with Daniel Hertz and Sensory Power SCs but these MB ultras have brought my experience to a new level.
On post #330, we have to remember that in my opinion and experience, even if I do not find network cables necessary for Spectrals, it is still the factory that will extend the product's warranty according to the conditions they have set forth. Having Ian or any other Spectral owners sacrifice their warranties might be asking too much.
What really caught my attention with the DMA 360 was its ability to sound delicate despite its power output. By the time I received my units, it was already the series 2. From the DMC 20 preamp onwards, I had always used MIT cables with Spectrals. It's only with the DMA 360 that I have tried other IC, SC and PC with. I was happy with Daniel Hertz and Sensory Power SCs but these MB ultras have brought my experience to a new level.
I have a pair of MB ultra PC for my power amps for a week now. They replace very popular and very well respected PC which the price is reasonable. So my experience is not indicative of comparing against other uber expensive PC. Actually, MB ultra PC is the most expensive PC I have ever owned.
What can I say. MB is much more than a step up. I can confirm what's Steve says about this cable. From the first moment I turn on the power amps and music starts flowing, I know they are something special. It is so much more musical.
Other uber expensive PC may produce the same results but my search of PC stops here. So now thinking of replacing front PCs with ultra PC as well.
What can I say. MB is much more than a step up. I can confirm what's Steve says about this cable. From the first moment I turn on the power amps and music starts flowing, I know they are something special. It is so much more musical.
Other uber expensive PC may produce the same results but my search of PC stops here. So now thinking of replacing front PCs with ultra PC as well.
I've been quiet re Master Built for the very reasons that everyone talks about here. Unless you hear it the words to describe the sound are merely hyperbole This is a cable that if one gets a chance to audition in your system I would jump at the chance. It remains for me the very best cable I personally have ever heard.
When Leif had to take back the Ultra loom he left with me it was as if my sound stage literally collapsed and was far less extended at the top and bottom. I really had a tough time living without this cable so 6 weeks ago I ordered my MB Ultra loom which arrived 2 days ago and is presently sitting on a cable cooker getting burned in.
They go into my system on Wednesday.
The Ultra PC's for my amp should be here in the next week or two
When Leif had to take back the Ultra loom he left with me it was as if my sound stage literally collapsed and was far less extended at the top and bottom. I really had a tough time living without this cable so 6 weeks ago I ordered my MB Ultra loom which arrived 2 days ago and is presently sitting on a cable cooker getting burned in.
They go into my system on Wednesday.
The Ultra PC's for my amp should be here in the next week or two
Wow....really...the only experience I have had that happen, had to do with grounding. Interesting.
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Mouthwatering set of SC and IC. I wish I have the chance to have SC and IC to hear in my system. I don't know whether ultra PC extend top and bottom to my system. I know that they are like magnet and drawing me to listen to music more and make it much more enjoyable.
I don't mean to take this thread off topic, but your post above is one of the only times I've seen mention of the Hegel Mohican CD player. You're using it in a system of superb quality so I'd be interested in your thoughts on its ultimate level of performance, any other players you may have compared it to, etc. TIA, your further impressions would be most appreciated!
Thanks
The big one I need will be an 8 meter IC from my preamp top my amp. In all likelihood that one will be Signature as the Ultra in that length is tres cher
The big one I need will be an 8 meter IC from my preamp top my amp. In all likelihood that one will be Signature as the Ultra in that length is tres cher
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