I use my Verdier turntable with the original motor, which in my opinion is very quiet. I strongly object to using any other motor or motor controller than the original, because its simplicity contributes positively to the directness and intimacy of the sound.
You can place CNC-machined Gabon ebony disks under the aluminum footers of the Verdier, but I recommend trying them under your speakers first.
i have installed the wellfloat platform under the motor drive. the platform was relatively affordable at around $260 usd inc tax. it is extremely effective at ensuring no motor chatter gets into the supporting furniture. this has (in my system) a very large impact on the platine. for the good. with my stethoscope i can now hear that the only noise getting to the table is from the belt. and it is really very minor.
i have installed the wellfloat platform under the motor drive. the platform was relatively affordable at around $260 usd inc tax. it is extremely effective at ensuring no motor chatter gets into the supporting furniture. this has (in my system) a very large impact on the platine. for the good. with my stethoscope i can now hear that the only noise getting to the table is from the belt. and it is really very minor.
i have installed the wellfloat platform under the motor drive. the platform was relatively affordable at around $260 usd inc tax. it is extremely effective at ensuring no motor chatter gets into the supporting furniture. this has (in my system) a very large impact on the platine. for the good. with my stethoscope i can now hear that the only noise getting to the table is from the belt. and it is really very minor.
When you move to a well designed and built belt drive everything becomes so much refined and real, you can not go back. For me it was La Platine Verdier.
That is a very good description of what I heard (20 years ago) moving from a TD 124 to Galibier Gavia. I would add that the noise floor with a good belt drive drops considerably.
I do have another stand and might keep all 4. But we shall see as I want to keep the mid century aesthetic to the room and don’t want it to look like a cluttered mess.
My HiFi journey all started with an idler (EALC Miracord 50H) many years ago. later I was given a Telefunken W250 what´s a Perpetuum Ebner PE2020 idler internally by my oncle. Than I switched to belt driven turntables and went back to idlers (Lenco L75 up to PTP6, Garrard 401, Thorens TD-121, EMT 930). But when you move on to a top class direct drive everything becomes so much more refined, real and detailed, I can´t go back.
Of course I kept all my idlers and two of the belt drives (LP12 and Fairchild 412) but enjoy my DDs even more (Technics SP-15, SP-10MK2a, Pioneer PL-70, PL-70LII, P-10 and Lo-D/ Hitachi TU-1000)
My HiFi journey all started with an idler (EALC Miracord 50H) many years ago. later I was given a Telefunken W250 what´s a Perpetuum Ebner PE2020 idler internally by my oncle. Than I switched to belt driven turntables and went back to idlers (Lenco L75 up to PTP6, Garrard 401, Thorens TD-121, EMT 930). But when you move on to a top class direct drive everything becomes so much more refined, real and detailed, I can´t go back.
Of course I kept all my idlers and two of the belt drives (LP12 and Fairchild 412) but enjoy my DDs even more (Technics SP-15, SP-10MK2a, Pioneer PL-70, PL-70LII, P-10 and Lo-D/ Hitachi TU-1000)
What a lovely journey! Thank you it brought back memories.
My first turntable back in the 70's was an idler, a Dual 1219/Shure V15 which I don't think I ever used as a changer, lol! With my Double Advent/ Crown DC 330a system of the time I had no complaints. Having caught the hi fi bug I was soon checking out other turntables, arms and cartridges. I briefly dabbled with some early direct drives like the Dual 701 and the Technics Sl 110(can't remember the arm) but found that I preferred the sound of a Thorens TD 125 Mk with an SME arm. Many belt drives like the original Oracle, Linn and VPI's followed.
More recently I circled back to a direct drive, the BrinkMann Bardot. It's excellent but something in me lusted for that robust sound that idlers in particular provide. While I still have my Bardot I am a very pleased with the awesome sound of my Artisan Fidelity Garrard 301 with GrooveMaster arm and Ortofon SPU Classic. I call it my back to the future table!
Similar journey but a different preference, viva la difference.
whilst a system might always be evolving, i feel right now with my la platine, i have well and truly achieved what i hoped for post the garrard 401. i have a level of fidelity i never had on the 401 (detail, resolution) as well as a lower noise floor, better micro-dynamics and just a less thick sound. my garrard 401 was setup as a shindo type setup albeit with a safir tonearm. the safir is capable of so much more so it wasn't best fit perhaps. i still get tonnes of bass and great dynamics so i am very happy with the change really and don't see myself going back.
something i have brought with me from the garrard is that i have switched verdier motor for an AC motor driven by the long dog audio speed controller. my verdier motor was quite old a bit noisy. the new ac motor has great speed stability, is quiet as the grave, and brings out a full suite of sounds from records such as i haven't heard before.
have now ordered the wellfloat double which i will use under turntable. can't wait.
whilst a system might always be evolving, i feel right now with my la platine, i have well and truly achieved what i hoped for post the garrard 401. i have a level of fidelity i never had on the 401 (detail, resolution) as well as a lower noise floor, better micro-dynamics and just a less thick sound. my garrard 401 was setup as a shindo type setup albeit with a safir tonearm. the safir is capable of so much more so it wasn't best fit perhaps. i still get tonnes of bass and great dynamics so i am very happy with the change really and don't see myself going back.
something i have brought with me from the garrard is that i have switched verdier motor for an AC motor driven by the long dog audio speed controller. my verdier motor was quite old a bit noisy. the new ac motor has great speed stability, is quiet as the grave, and brings out a full suite of sounds from records such as i haven't heard before.
have now ordered the wellfloat double which i will use under turntable. can't wait.
sure. the motor is a " 9904 111 31813 from Allied Motion Premotec"
rpm is 250. i use it as 110 volt with 50hz. can be operated on 240 v though too. i am in australia (where we have 240v) but the long dog audio is switchable.
i installed a 12 mm outside diameter pulley on it. i then installed a 40 mm outside diameter (bought from Harfington) on that small pulley (inner diameter of larger pulley is 12 mm and it fits great).
i use the Long Dog Audio speed controller with this. i had an old Sogon Power Cable from audio note and my audio dealer was kind enough to terminate this with powercon for use with LDA SC.
I attached the motor via bolts to a small board i had from a coffee scale i bought
I then taped this board to a crucible i bought from ebay. the crucible is graphite so drillable. didnt need to drill it in end. i got the crucible as it was the right height (180 mm or so). i filled the crucible with spare change to weigh it down. i use a linen thread. it has great grunt and speed is 100% locked in.
so i could now put this in a better housing but honestly my system sounds amazing so not a huge priority right now. the new motor versus my old verdier motor is like comparing an asthmatic on deaths door with Ben Johnson at the 88 olympics. no contest.
sure. the motor is a " 9904 111 31813 from Allied Motion Premotec"
rpm is 250. i use it as 110 volt with 50hz. can be operated on 240 v though too. i am in australia (where we have 240v) but the long dog audio is switchable.
i installed a 12 mm outside diameter pulley on it. i then installed a 40 mm outside diameter (bought from Harfington) on that small pulley (inner diameter of larger pulley is 12 mm and it fits great).
i use the Long Dog Audio speed controller with this. i had an old Sogon Power Cable from audio note and my audio dealer was kind enough to terminate this with powercon for use with LDA SC.
I attached the motor via bolts to a small board i had from a coffee scale i bought
I then taped this board to a crucible i bought from ebay. the crucible is graphite so drillable. didnt need to drill it in end. i got the crucible as it was the right height (180 mm or so). i filled the crucible with spare change to weigh it down. i use a linen thread. it has great grunt and speed is 100% locked in.
so i could now put this in a better housing but honestly my system sounds amazing so not a huge priority right now. the new motor versus my old verdier motor is like comparing an asthmatic on deaths door with Ben Johnson at the 88 olympics. no contest.
oh yes. quite essential. as per Galibier paradigm, one is trying to get rid of any elasticity in the mix. once i did that, leaving only the belt as a point of elasticity (and with linen even that is very limited), the system came to life.
