I did tell Mik I don't think that's sounding right with the Dalby. I can hear that through the video. He differs. So we disagree.
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Gian's system - Vyger-Opus vs Techdas AF3, SAT+Lyra Lambda
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I did tell Mik I don't think that's sounding right with the Dalby. I can hear that through the video. He differs. So we disagree.
I only posted for a customer that is interested in the two arms......
Ok two arm Vyger is awesome.
I had the Dalby record weight since the Kronos was still running. It had sonic effect on all four tts I was using. If Ked was not so busy completing one thousand agendas in four days at my place, I am sure he would hear the effect. A Wow? No. But the effect was there. And so my $4,000 for a learning lesson.
@Gian. You should try on your Vyger. For you it will cost another Milan shirt for me.
Very well said, I don't buy the concept of "neutrality" too. When listening to a system, I would immediately tell whether it sounds right or not (a certain level of balance across frequencies; transparency, energy, soundstage scale etc), this is objective and most well trained audiophile can do that.
After that, personal taste jumps in and I would judge whether I like it or not. Sometimes the sound is not my cup of tea but I still think it is a well put-together system. However "neutral" is a word I never use to make a comment to how a system sounds, because it just doesn't exists... everything has a impact on the sound, cables, room, grounding, racks...it's just impossible to have an absolute reference.
As to record weight, it is no difference to me than other components like phono cable, arm, cartridge. Are you going to spend 3-5k for a phono cable upgrade? or cartridge upgrade? If the answer is yes, then why not a record weight? Assuming the improvement is as large.
Actually, the more I listen to all kinds of accessories, the more humble I become. I used to be skeptical about most of them, but now I just shut up and listen. And then ask myself, is it possible to make a similar improvement with the same cost?
P.S. This is not an argument with Tang as he clearly stated "neutrality" is not what he meant. Just my 2 cents.
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Your one TT had suspension and vacuum. The other has a sloping platter as part of its design. Maybe that's why. Also your weight is much lighter, mine was very heavy
Don't say that Bonz. You tried your Darlby. Mine is the second generation more expensive than yours. Totally different shape. Maybe different wood too.
A Vyger with two arms...just when the well-heeled and well-appointed vinylphile thought he had it all...
"The absolute sound" according to one particular school of thought - it is only arrogant if we do not understand what is behind it. The intend was clearly explained in issue 1 of TAS and was often discussed in many articles in the magazine along decades." Absolute sound" is a nick for a type of sound, not an universal reference or preference. In fact , unless people understand this hobby, most of our statements can be considered arrogant, starting with the WBF forum name ...
The Absolute Sound (TAS) was most of all a brilliant copyright act.
Each Dalby is different. There is no one better than the other. Yours is much lighter than the one I had. Or what you see in that Vyger video. At yours I tried your Dalby, at Gian's I tried mine.
It's a pity it doesn't have a pivoted arm. Maybe that's next generation
Writing for money is the first thing what comes to my mind ."The absolute sound" according to one particular school of thought - it is only arrogant if we do not understand what is behind it. The intend was clearly explained in issue 1 of TAS and was often discussed in many articles in the magazine along decades." Absolute sound" is a nick for a type of sound, not an universal reference or preference. In fact , unless people understand this hobby, most of our statements can be considered arrogant, starting with the WBF forum name ...
The Absolute Sound (TAS) was most of all a brilliant copyright act.
I did read 2 of their magazines 12 years ago , may be they have changed the tune.
For me no thank you
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This is the most immediate and flagrant reality of our hobby - most of our valuations are referred to this aspect. Surely this makes our judgments extremely dependent on our (and a few others) systems.
If my memory serves me right, the only time I ever used the word "neutral" in this forum was when I was describing the tone of Atlas SL years ago when I was cutting short describing its tone.
The word might not have been used, but for me "It is actually much more difficult to find a solution that add or subtract least to the sound imo. " "No need to season it in any way" is neutral. Neutral is without seasoning, that lets the recording through, without adding or subtracting. What everyone should try to achieve. I know there are negative connotations with neutrality but not to me, for me neutrality is a positive, though utopian.
Be careful with such argument, do not make bets with anyone, google thinks otherwise ...
It is not an argument Micro. It is a statement. People here just enjoy making a statement into an argument. Thanks for your curtesy anyhow. But I started my statement with "If my memory serves me right." Therefore I could be mistaken.Be careful with such argument, do not make bets with anyone, google thinks otherwise ...
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