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I now own three DACs that are actively rotated into my system. They are the dCS Varese, the MSB Select 2 + Director, and the Lampizator Horizon 360.

I started this thread to share my own impressions.

First, my impressions of the Select 2: I find the Select 2 to be slightly warm, somewhat sweet, very balanced from top to bottom, incredibly resolving and wonderful with complex transients. It is never harsh or metallic to my ears. But, it also never approaches what I hear with analogue - that wonderful smoothness, uber natural decay and a sense of presence.

On the Horizon 360: Let me start my saying that whenever I switch to the Select 2 from the Horizon I am immediately more impressed by the Select 2. It just seems to render music across the frequency range with balance and equal favor. But, after I settle in and listen I always return to the Horizon. It is just somehow more pleasant. It has a warmth and the mid-range! It never gets harsh but it also does favor all frequencies with equal attention. It is an absolute wonder in the upper bass through the upper mid-range. The others, well, they're good, too - just not quite Ivy League (to quote a movie!).

On the Varese: I have owned a Rossini + Clock and I have spent a long period with the Vivaldi Apex. Those DACs are very impressive. Not to my tastes but still impressive. I find them to be digital sounding and even metallic in the upper frequencies. That said, they are awesome - I am using hyperbole here to make a point! The Varese is just somehow there. When I first heard the Varese I was somewhat 'meh' about it. It neither impressed me nor did it offend. It was fine. Or so I thought. But, as I auditioned amplifiers I found myself asking more and more to pair the amps with the Varese. I found that it added nothing and removed nothing. It was never harsh. Yet it never misses a beat. It is not warm nor is it cold. It is just there. But after listening to so many genres of music where it just did its job so adequately I found myself liking it more and more. With the Horizon, I tend to listen to vocals - anything mid-range focused. With the Select 2 I tend to listen to rock, classical and a tick of jazz (just trying to be cool!) But with the Varese I listen to everything - it just doesn't care. It is merely adequate in all the most incredible ways. I have no idea how to describe its voicing because I do not sense any.
 
I now own three DACs that are actively rotated into my system. They are the dCS Varese, the MSB Select 2 + Director, and the Lampizator Horizon 360.

I now own three DACs that are actively rotated into my system. They are the dCS Varese, the MSB Select 2 + Director, and the Lampizator Horizon 360.

I started this thread to share my own impressions.

First, my impressions of the Select 2: I find the Select 2 to be slightly warm, somewhat sweet, very balanced from top to bottom, incredibly resolving and wonderful with complex transients. It is never harsh or metallic to my ears. But, it also never approaches what I hear with analogue - that wonderful smoothness, uber natural decay and a sense of presence.

On the Horizon 360: Let me start my saying that whenever I switch to the Select 2 from the Horizon I am immediately more impressed by the Select 2. It just seems to render music across the frequency range with balance and equal favor. But, after I settle in and listen I always return to the Horizon. It is just somehow more pleasant. It has a warmth and the mid-range! It never gets harsh but it also does favor all frequencies with equal attention. It is an absolute wonder in the upper bass through the upper mid-range. The others, well, they're good, too - just not quite Ivy League (to quote a movie!).

On the Varese: I have owned a Rossini + Clock and I have spent a long period with the Vivaldi Apex. Those DACs are very impressive. Not to my tastes but still impressive. I find them to be digital sounding and even metallic in the upper frequencies. That said, they are awesome - I am using hyperbole here to make a point! The Varese is just somehow there. When I first heard the Varese I was somewhat 'meh' about it. It neither impressed me nor did it offend. It was fine. Or so I thought. But, as I auditioned amplifiers I found myself asking more and more to pair the amps with the Varese. I found that it added nothing and removed nothing. It was never harsh. Yet it never misses a beat. It is not warm nor is it cold. It is just there. But after listening to so many genres of music where it just did its job so adequately I found myself liking it more and more. With the Horizon, I tend to listen to vocals - anything mid-range focused. With the Select 2 I tend to listen to rock, classical and a tick of jazz (just trying to be cool!) But with the Varese I listen to everything - it just doesn't care. It is merely adequate in all the most incredible ways. I have no idea how to describe its voicing because I do not sense any.

I now own three DACs that are actively rotated into my system. They are the dCS Varese, the MSB Select 2 + Director, and the Lampizator Horizon 360.

I started this thread to share my own impressions.

First, my impressions of the Select 2: I find the Select 2 to be slightly warm, somewhat sweet, very balanced from top to bottom, incredibly resolving and wonderful with complex transients. It is never harsh or metallic to my ears. But, it also never approaches what I hear with analogue - that wonderful smoothness, uber natural decay and a sense of presence.

On the Horizon 360: Let me start my saying that whenever I switch to the Select 2 from the Horizon I am immediately more impressed by the Select 2. It just seems to render music across the frequency range with balance and equal favor. But, after I settle in and listen I always return to the Horizon. It is just somehow more pleasant. It has a warmth and the mid-range! It never gets harsh but it also does favor all frequencies with equal attention. It is an absolute wonder in the upper bass through the upper mid-range. The others, well, they're good, too - just not quite Ivy League (to quote a movie!).

On the Varese: I have owned a Rossini + Clock and I have spent a long period with the Vivaldi Apex. Those DACs are very impressive. Not to my tastes but still impressive. I find them to be digital sounding and even metallic in the upper frequencies. That said, they are awesome - I am using hyperbole here to make a point! The Varese is just somehow there. When I first heard the Varese I was somewhat 'meh' about it. It neither impressed me nor did it offend. It was fine. Or so I thought. But, as I auditioned amplifiers I found myself asking more and more to pair the amps with the Varese. I found that it added nothing and removed nothing. It was never harsh. Yet it never misses a beat. It is not warm nor is it cold. It is just there. But after listening to so many genres of music where it just did its job so adequately I found myself liking it more and more. With the Horizon, I tend to listen to vocals - anything mid-range focused. With the Select 2 I tend to listen to rock, classical and a tick of jazz (just trying to be cool!) But with the Varese I listen to everything - it just doesn't care. It is merely adequate in all the most incredible ways. I have no idea how to describe its voicing because I do not sense any.
Pat, thank you for these extensive listening impressions. Your thoughtful comparisons and the way you've articulated the unique character of each DAC are truly interesting.

Have you considered auditioning a server to further improve the SQ? My MSB Select and Cascade DAC have benefitted substantially with Taiko Olympus plus I/O as server (which I also will be pairing with the Sentinel when it arrives).
 
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Pat, thank you for these extensive listening impressions. Your thoughtful comparisons and the way you've articulated the unique character of each DAC are truly interesting.

Have you considered auditioning a server to further improve the SQ? My MSB Select and Cascade DAC have benefitted substantially with Taiko Olympus plus I/O as server (which I also will be pairing with the Sentinel when it arrives).
I have not auditioned an Olympus in my system. I have, admittedly, been reluctant to do so.

For the Select 2, I listen via USB as I find that it sounds much warmer and a bit more lush than the ethernet port.

I have utilized three streamers. In order of sq, they were: Roon Nuc, Pachanko Masterpiece, Innuos Statement Next-Gen
 
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What tubes were being used in the Horizon?

Lol. You knew this was coming, so I'll just get it out there.
 
“merely adequate in all the most incredible ways”

Does it mean good or bad? Will you keep Varese as your main DAC?
 
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Fantastic review!
This type of information is invaluable.
Look forward to hearing your comparisons between MSB Sentinel, Lampi Aphrodite and the DCS Varese in a few months:)
 
Sorry, I missed that one but likely Wadax Reference Mk2 by next year..
Also don’t forget we will have the Taiko Olympus with V2 analogue card.and router/switch in a Olympus IO chassis by next year.
We are closing on 1 million for all these DAC’s alone:
We are clearly in a crazy hobby:)
 
Sorry, I missed that one but likely Wadax Reference Mk2 by next year.
ha!

i think Wadax has their hands full with meeting demand for the Studio Player and fleshing out the Studio Line up.

love to see hardware upgrades for the modular Reference line up but not holding my breath. most advances are likely software at this point, which we do get organically from time to time.
We are clearly in a crazy hobby:)
crazy good!
 
I have heard the Wadax several times. I think it's really, really great.

It would be inappropriate for me to attempt a comparison to the Varese. I would want to hear both in the same system with the same music etc etc
 

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