All New Clarisys Audio Minuet Loudspeakers !

[sbo6]

sbo6,
Do you think I should use ASC bass traps in the corners?

ozzy

For the vast majority of our small audio rooms (compared to ideal which is much, much larger) yes, bass traps in corners almost always yield positive sonic low frequency results with little downside, other than perhaps, aesthetics.

 

[ozzzy]

Has anyone heard these speakers playing Classic Rock?
Led Zepelin. CCR. AC/DC etc.

ozzy

 

[marmota]

Very interesting speakers.

Are the bass + midrage/tweeter drivers both planars (like Alsyvox), or is the bass planar + tweeter ribbon (like the older Apogees)?

 

[Bbock]

Very interesting speakers.

Are the bass + midrage/tweeter drivers both planars (like Alsyvox), or is the bass planar + tweeter ribbon (like the older Apogees)?

Like the Apogees.

 

[Alrainbow]

the apps have magnets at rear only
The viz is front and rear on bass panel and sides on mid n tweeter
I believe the clarysis are same as apps
both are very good

 

[ozzzy]

I have watched every video I can find, and the actual weight of the Minute stated varies greatly.

This what Suncoast website shows:

Specifications

• Height: 3.9 ft
• Depth: 3.5 in
• Width: 2 ft
• Weight: 165 lbs. piece without flight case packaging.

This is what shows on another Clarisys website:

Specifications​

• Height: 3.9 ft
• Depth: 3.5 in
• Width: 2 ft
• Weight: 200 lbs. piece without flight case packaging

Here is another website showing weight in kg:

• Height: 121cm
• Depth: 9cm
• Width: 70cm
• Weight: 95 kg a piece without flightcase packaging (215kg shipping weight)

Conversion to lbs.- 95kg= 209lb

And I’m pretty sure I have also seen them listed as 220 lbs. without the flight case.
So, what do they weigh?

ozzy

 

[Bbock]

I have watched every video I can find, and the actual weight of the Minute stated varies greatly.

This what Suncoast website shows:

Specifications

• Height: 3.9 ft
• Depth: 3.5 in
• Width: 2 ft
• Weight: 165 lbs. piece without flight case packaging.

This is what shows on another Clarisys website:

Specifications​

• Height: 3.9 ft
• Depth: 3.5 in
• Width: 2 ft
• Weight: 200 lbs. piece without flight case packaging

Here is another website showing weight in kg:

• Height: 121cm
• Depth: 9cm
• Width: 70cm
• Weight: 95 kg a piece without flightcase packaging (215kg shipping weight)

Conversion to lbs.- 95kg= 209lb

And I’m pretty sure I have also seen them listed as 220 lbs. without the flight case.
So, what do they weigh?

ozzy

The manufacturer’s website states 95kg=209 lbs. I know Florian has recently updated the site so I’d go with that.

 

[ozzzy]

Thanks, Bbock for your reply.
Suncoast Audio has just replied, and they say the older version (non-neodymium magnets) had a lighter base. The newer one with the larger magnets and beefier base increases the weight to now 220 lbs.

ozzy

 

[Bbock]

Thanks, Bbock for your reply.
Suncoast Audio has just replied, and they say the older version (non-neodymium magnets) had a lighter base. The newer one with the larger magnets and beefier base increases the weight to now 220 lbs.

ozzy

I wish the distributor and the manufacturer would get their technical specs accurate and in sync with their product line. Shouldn’t be hard!

 

[ozzzy]

I agree! This is one heavy small speaker!
ozzy

 

[Christiaan Punter]

Different lipstick - same pig....

It may have started that way but they are now several generations down the line and have been improved in various aspects. I’ve owned various Apogees and am a long time fan. So far, I only heard the Clarisys Minuet (earlier Ferrite version) in a controlled environment, but they really impressed me. That was Dutch showroom PUUR hifidelity in Utrecht. I’ve done a review of them on hifi-advice.com and I may be doing more in the relative short term.

 

[Christiaan Punter]

I wish the distributor and the manufacturer would get their technical specs accurate and in sync with their product line. Shouldn’t be hard!

The trouble is that new models have recently been issued with different specs (Ferrite vs Neodymium and exoskeleton bracing, among others). Some dealers still stock the outgoing model or may still show the old specs.

 

[Christiaan Punter]

Like the Apogees.

Yes, but the mrtw foils are wider, combined with stronger magnets, so that a simpler first order crossover can be used.

 

[marmota]

Yes, but the mrtw foils are wider, combined with stronger magnets, so that a simpler first order crossover can be used.

I've read your impressions about the Minuet in your website, very nicely written.

Couldn't help but notice that you wrote:

"More so than most loudspeakers I’ve heard, the Minuets sound amazingly coherent. If you play any type of instrument, it will have the same harmonics over the entire spectrum. Each driver is made from the same material and has the same motor structure and this clearly pays off."

Sorry to insist on the same question, but is the tweeter a planar, like the bass driver but downsized (as happens with Alsyvox), or a ribbon (and as such similar, but not equal to the planar bass panel)?

 

[Christiaan Punter]

I've read your impressions about the Minuet in your website, very nicely written.

Couldn't help but notice that you wrote:

"More so than most loudspeakers I’ve heard, the Minuets sound amazingly coherent. If you play any type of instrument, it will have the same harmonics over the entire spectrum. Each driver is made from the same material and has the same motor structure and this clearly pays off."

Sorry to insist on the same question, but is the tweeter a planar, like the bass driver but downsized (as happens with Alsyvox), or a ribbon (and as such similar, but not equal to the planar bass panel)?

Alsyvox uses Push-Pull (magnets front and back) for all drivers, midrange, and tweeter included. Clarisys works much like Apogee, with a planar for bass and a ribbon for mid and treble that has magnets on the sides. Nevertheless, the Minuets sounded very coherent. A friend and fellow reviewer thought the same and he is not even a fan of panel speakers/ribbons. One of the differences with the old Apogees is that the current Clarisys ribbon is wider so the crossover can be set lower and a simple first-order 6dB filter can be used. Meanwhile, the double-sided bass panels and Neodymium magnets provide higher efficiency. BTW the foam around the woofer edges (to counter resonances-the foil is hard-coupled) has also been replaced by a much more resilient material: piano felt. Re-reading what I wrote in the review, "same motor" is indeed not 100% correct. I will go and change this.

 

[marmota]

Alsyvox uses Push-Pull (magnets front and back) for all drivers, midrange, and tweeter included. Clarisys works much like Apogee, with a planar for bass and a ribbon for mid and treble that has magnets on the sides. Nevertheless, the Minuets sounded very coherent. A friend and reviewer thought the same and he is not even a fan of panel speakers/ribbons. One of the differences with the old Apogees is that the current Clarisys ribbon is wider so the crossover can be set lower and a simple first-order 6dB filter can be used. Meanwhile, the double-sided bass panels and Neodymium magnets provide higher efficiency. BTW the foam around the woofer edges (to counter resonances-the foil is hard-coupled) has also been replaced by a much more resilient material: piano felt. Re-reading what I wrote in the review, "same motor" is indeed not 100% correct. I will go and change this.

Thanks for the explanation!

 

[Audiohertz2]

Alsyvox uses Push-Pull (magnets front and back) for all drivers, midrange, and tweeter included. Clarisys works much like Apogee, with a planar for bass and a ribbon for mid and treble that has magnets on the sides. Nevertheless, the Minuets sounded very coherent. A friend and fellow reviewer thought the same and he is not even a fan of panel speakers/ribbons. One of the differences with the old Apogees is that the current Clarisys ribbon is wider so the crossover can be set lower and a simple first-order 6dB filter can be used. Meanwhile, the double-sided bass panels and Neodymium magnets provide higher efficiency. BTW the foam around the woofer edges (to counter resonances-the foil is hard-coupled) has also been replaced by a much more resilient material: piano felt. Re-reading what I wrote in the review, "same motor" is indeed not 100% correct. I will go and change this.

That would make the Alsyvox a push pull planar ..!

 

[Christiaan Punter]

That would make the Alsyvox a push pull planar ..!

Indeed, it is! That's an important reason for its very high sensitivity.

 

[Audio_Karma]

"Now we can have our cake and eat it too" !

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[Florian]

Hello, maybe as an addition. We don`t use a push pull system because we do not believe in placing a large metal and magnet grid in front of the drivers is good for the sound. Hardcore Audiophiles shy away from cloth infront of their drivers, just imagine a metal grid with magnets. It also cannot be said that a push pull design is more efficent; it depends on the distance from the panel to the grid and the kind of magnets used. Enjoy the music, life is to short