The best possible transports are important there and price is a badge of honor
That's a pretty sad state of audio.
The best possible transports are important there and price is a badge of honor
Yeap, and proven by the sound - when it comes to high end digital, only spinning will do, at least so far, and a slaved transport goes even further: enter the dCS and many others like it in the past. Two words: jitter and noise. Nothing USB-based can come close to the low noise of the best transports, and we have yet to see how ethernet fares here.
I have a Sinology NAS filled with rips and a computer with Roon. But is is not "audiophile approved" system ...
you are avoiding the obvious question - dcs is using an Esoteric transport with no output stage here. what do they do that is worth 42k?
Mike, any desire to pick up the MSB transport down the line? Or are you happy with ripped files?
you are avoiding the obvious question - dcs is using an Esoteric transport with no output stage here. what do they do that is worth 42k?
Yeap, and proven by the sound - when it comes to high end digital, only spinning will do, at least so far, and a slaved transport goes even further: enter the dCS and many others like it in the past. Two words: jitter and noise. Nothing USB-based can come close to the low noise of the best transports, and we have yet to see how ethernet fares here.
Ack,
Thanks. Where do you believe jitter and noise are introduced?
The UltraDrive has been engineered and tested to be clocked by an external oscillator, it has no clock reference of its own. Spectral engineers then clock directly from the DAC master clock for the highest possible timing accuracy. Slaving the optical drive directly from the DAC clock is acknowledged as the most precise method possible to control data output
We replaced our hand-made internal copper digital wiring with pure silver (cryogenically treated) wiring, double-shielded, made for us by Revelation™ Audio Labs. These new cables connect the MB to our daughter-board, and then the daughter-board to our rear digital signal outputs (AES/EBU and BNC-SPDIF) – the result is significantly improved performance of our daughter-board for 2-channel audio
We were very skeptical at first, but when Revelation™ Audio suggested we use their cryo-treated silver cable for a DC cable (from our PSU to the Neutrik connector for DC on the rear of the server), we gave it an audition. "Wow" is all we can say.
The Asia market is very high end and it's primarily silver discs
Do you guys think it sounds better than ripping disks to a drive? Or different?
Better, significantly better. But here we have a problem - owners will have experience, but some people will also consider that they have owner bias ... Speculation is much funnier ...
BTW, I did not order the transport when I ordered the Vivaldi - I was thinking about keeping the Metronome Calypso Reference. But after listening to the transport for a few weeks I understood it was part of the package.
audiophile-approved to me and all of my local friends including some reviewers.
A regular computer? Nah... Not in 2017.
With a good NAS and a good DAC, you won't need a computer or a server, just a network.
And if you must have a server, it shouldn't be a regular computer, but a purpose-built one.
my 30,000 foot view of transport/discs verses files (ignoring the higher resolution of files issue) is one of a mature platform with transports verses a still relatively young platform with servers and files. the VRDS-NEO is the culmination of 30+ years of transport evolution with billions made.
OTOH making the absolutely perfect music server and then delivering it to a dac, is maybe 6-7-10 years old at a high level. sure there were CPU's and files before that but no serious efforts. now we have a number of them sprouting up everywhere along with software too so this is a rapidly developing situation. (...)
5k? The Esoteric P-03 costs 13k with the same transport (which I'm sure is jacked up pricing-wise vs. true Japanese price, but that's a different story). I'm still confused at 3.5x for the same transport.
Another arrogant statement out of Boston.."when it comes to high end digital, only spinning will do, at least so far, and a slaved transport goes even further" Really? What is ur experience with files?As far as I can tell, none. But u did get a new shade of Spectral sunglasses so of course spinning is where its at. And of course its definitive!
USB is bandaid technology and I agree it sounds bad. But it started the ball away from spinning and on to something much better. Some of us, not the arrogants, are using ethernet as the endpoint and its the way to go. Doesn't ur associate use it on his Upsampler?
Kingsrule, please send me a private message with evidence of your claim, otherwise it is a gross generalization. Ack, Al M., Madfloyd and I have four very different systems and approaches toward audio. Our opinions differ, though we enjoy a similar reference and each other's company.
How does this get to US 42k?
To buy retail in the UK ex VAT 22.5k pounds.
seems the US distributor, which is DCS is making all the $$. This is the sad state of high end audio.
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