You are right Bill. I accept the sibilance of MS as is for its other virtues. The MS has more sibilance than other carts I own period. Daiza did not get rid of sibilance. It only smoothen out tiny spikes somehow. I use MSL or AtlasSL for vocals.
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This is a good question, as I too am not listening as much to some of my vocals pop/modern/reissue LPs because of the sibilance of the Master Signature. I also hear the issue on some jazz reissues with muted trumpet and cymbals. However, there is absolutely no sibilance with choral music, massed voices, or soprano/tenor solo on my original classical LPs. I am beginning to question whether the issue is with the cartridge or with a few specific recordings. Otherwise, the cartridge is glorious and the best my system has ever sounded.
Apparently, when I send the cartridge back to vdH for its 250 hour check up, the high frequencies above 20kHz can be somewhat attenuated. I don't understand how this is done, but I am considering this option. Otherwise, if my second arm project (custom outboard armpod with SME 3012R arm) ever gets finished, I will have two arms on my SME table and will be able to use my MSL Sig Gold on one arm, and my Master Signature on the other, as is desirable for different music and recordings.
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Hi Peter,
Yeah I don’t know about above 20khz for this. Most sibilance is heard roughly between 5-8khz.
I keep tracking this cos I had same issue with a Colibri xgw despite phenomenal energy and transient speed.
Dear Peter,
Your Master Sig will get even more transparent over time. You will be more amazed. Trying to dial vta to tame the sibilance will lessen its magic and that won't be the optimum point anyway. I have one 0.5 mv and the other 1.1 mv. They both behave the same way. Once you have 3012R project done, put the MS on it and put MSL on the other arm.
kind regards,
Tang
How is any cart altered in the way Peter describes? Is it at the stylus, or catilever/headshell end of things?
Sounds fascinating, if unlikely.
Sounds fascinating, if unlikely.
Records or cartridge? Imo it's both in combination. If you want to hear sibilance from the Colibri Mstr Sig, try 'Homeless' on Paul Simon's Graceland. Actually it's evident to various degrees on several songs on that album.
Wrt frequency attenuation at vdH, I believe one way is by adding or removing damping material around the cantilever.
Wrt glorious, we agree.
I suggest the shim mod might work to change sibilance. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's easy to try. Cut a thin piece of thick paper into shape of the top of the cart, cut out holes/v/u shape for screws. Insert inbeween headshell and MS. Proceed like normal from there. Cereal box would work, or maybe cardstock for printer. Why it may work is resonance in the MS may be too high and causing SSSSS, more affirmative complete attachment to the headshell will lower resonance to something benign frequency. Only magic to gain!
Nah-- To the casual observer this thread turned into bit of a catfight--exciting though
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This album arrived today. Ben Webster Sunday Morning At the Montmartre. If I recall correctly, I bought if after MikeL mentioned in one of his threads a few weeks ago. This is a really good live album. Thanks Mike. Sonically it is like the band is right in front of me playing. I swear with this kind of vinyl you don't need tape. I will definitely check out Black Lion Records to see what else they have under their label. BLP 30182. UK pressing. Only 10 pounds I paid for this very clean record.
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He was a Tenor sax player not a Kazoo! Listen to the intonations of his horn here that are completely missing in your recoding. The same is true of the double bass and piano, your bass player seems to have one string and an acrylic instrument and there’s no romance or mood in yours. I don’t know what’s going on in your system but the force isn’t with it
!Shit. You have a point. The video below is a different recording. But My tenor doesn't sound like his tenor in both videos. I will investigate and bring my system to public scrutiny.
Btw, a Kazoo? Really? Tone down your words a little maaan. May be a trumpet
.Tang
You can't compare your recording to a video. This is going nowhere. Simply play the same recordings before and after with the panz, otherwise this type of method is pants
Well you won't do it. There is only one way for you to know is to rotate that board under amps, pre, and phono. On the floor, on the rack. I understand the back problem but if it cannot be done then we really don't have a conclusion, but at least play some records you posted just before adding it. You have now posted two new records.
Be a good advisor to the ambassador man. Not to point the finger at just only the Daiza. Always leave room of possibility for something else within the system or the record itself too.
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