Record Cleaning Machines

[Ki Choi]

with the resugence in vinyl im hoping there will be other ultrasonic type LP cleaning machines around the corner to give us yet more and better options

Here you go, Rob:

http://klaudio.com/

I have one, and it's amazing...

 

[Asamel]

Are there any reviews out there?

 

[asiufy]

Looks like a better built Audio Desk Systeme, but it costs the same.
Curious to hear more about it!


alexandre

 

[MylesBAstor]

Are there any reviews out there?

I have one in house

 

[rockitman]

Here you go, Rob:

http://klaudio.com/

I have one, and it's amazing...

Looks interesting. The build quality appears to be superior to the audio deske, however there are no scrubbing rollers. IME, the audio desk and this machine requires another accessory...human elbow grease To Pre scrub new or any record being cleaned for the first time with enzymatic cleaner. Finger prints, pressing release grime wil not be removed by ultrasonic alone.

 

[rockitman]

Here you go, Rob:

http://klaudio.com/

I have one, and it's amazing...

Hi Ki,

Any issue with the belt spinning records of different thickness ? my guess, the ultrasonic action on this machine is significantly greater than the system employed with the AudioDesk. I like the fact that it's made n America for better service. It looks like a more robust machine.

https://klaudio.com/files/products/manuals/manual_kd-cln-lp200_d110eng.pdf

 

[rockitman]

I have one in house

Well ? You have tried both I assume....

 

[puroagave]

IME, the audio desk and this machine requires another accessory...human elbow grease To Pre scrub new or any record being cleaned for the first time with enzymatic cleaner. Finger prints, pressing release grime wil not be removed by ultrasonic alone.

my thought exactly. in fact i dont want the drying function in the same machine as id dry the last disc while cleaning another and it makes the machine unecessarily complex and more stuff to break. correct me if I’m wrong but the autodesk and apparently the KLaudio don’t allow for longer than a 5 min wash cycle. the Thöress paper mirrors what others on the DIY boards have said, you need to elevate the temperature of the cleaning solution (Thöress example 113ºF) along with longer dwell time up to 30 min.

 

[rockitman]

my thought exactly. in fact i dont want the drying function in the same machine as id dry the last disc while cleaning another and it makes the machine unecessarily complex and more stuff to break. correct me if I’m wrong but the autodesk and apparently the KLaudio don’t allow for longer than a 5 min wash cycle. the throess paper mirrors what others on the DIY boards have said, you need to elevate the temperature of the cleaning solution (thoresse example 113f) along with longer dwell time up to 30 min.

The audio desk cleaning time can be extended. I have found no benefit in doing so as the pre scrub is the most important. After that, the audiodesk acts as a great rinser and dryer.

 

[puroagave]

but the solution is still at room temperature right? it doesnt clean thoroughly w/o temperature controls according to those that should know.

 

[rockitman]

but the solution is still at room temperature right? it doesnt clean thoroughly w/o temperature controls according to those that should know.

It is, but the record is essentially clean via the enzymatic scrub. I use a microfiber towel to completely dry the record prior to placing it in the RCM. I don't think heat is necessary and to have a record sit in a machine for 1/2 hour seems excessive to me. I am confident the records are as clean as they can get with my current workflow. There is no substitute for a good cleaning brush used with appropriate cleaning solutions and elbow grease.

 

[MylesBAstor]

Well ? You have tried both I assume....

I just received the KLAudio machine.

 

[Dre_J]

. I am confident the records are as clean as they can get with my current workflow. There is no substitute for a good cleaning brush used with appropriate cleaning solutions and elbow grease.

Can you explain your current workflow for cleaning records in a bit more detail?

 

[rockitman]

Can you explain your current workflow for cleaning records in a bit more detail?

Hi Dre,

First I lay down two micro towels on the table. I scrub the record on them using a disc doctor brush with AI Enzymatic wash. I wipe each side off dry with another micro towel. I then finish the record in my Audio Deske RCM. That's it.

 

[jazdoc]

Does anyone use an ultrasonic cleaner in conjunction with a wet cleaner like a Loricraft. I've always wondered if they would work synergistically. Getting the playing surface as clean as possible seems to be critical for best vinyl performance.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Does anyone use an ultrasonic cleaner in conjunction with a wet cleaner like a Loricraft. I've always wondered if they would work synergistically. Getting the playing surface as clean as possible seems to be critical for best vinyl performance.

me.

i have the Loricraft PRC4 Deluxe and the Audio Desk. it allows for both quick clean, and deep chemical attack on tougher pressings.

 

[jazdoc]

me.

i have the Loricraft PRC4 Deluxe and the Audio Desk. it allows for both quick clean, and deep chemical attack on tougher pressings.

Ooops!

So have you compared using the machines in series vs alone? Does the order of use make a difference?? Sounds like an interesting experiment...hmmm

 

[MylesBAstor]

Does anyone use an ultrasonic cleaner in conjunction with a wet cleaner like a Loricraft. I've always wondered if they would work synergistically. Getting the playing surface as clean as possible seems to be critical for best vinyl performance.

Didn't one reviewer (6 moons or IIRC Dagogo) do exactly what you suggested? Thing is, if you're using a RCF, how can you be sure that it's not responsible for the sonic changes, not the two machines?

 

[Dre_J]

Hi Dre,

First I lay down two micro towels on the table. I scrub the record on them using a disc doctor brush with AI Enzymatic wash. I wipe each side off dry with another micro towel. I then finish the record in my Audio Deske RCM. That's it.

Thanks Christian,

I just wanted to verify what I thought you were doing. I figured there were Audio Desk owners that still did some type of pre-cleaning to some degree when necessary.

 

[Mike Lavigne]

Ooops!

So have you compared using the machines in series vs alone? Does the order of use make a difference?? Sounds like an interesting experiment...hmmm

i use the Audio Desk always first; then i will place any Lps where i hear any noise in another stack for deep cleaning. then when i'm in the mood i will use the 3-step chemical process to deep clean them on the Loricraft. it's rare for there to be a difference but occasionally there is a small difference.

i've not gone the 'other way' to see how that might work. seems silly to take 20 minutes of pain first, to then take 20 seconds and just hit one button and go do something useful second.

next time you are over and want to experiment i'm game. i have all the brushes and chemicals we need.