Has anyone heard the Devialet D-Premier Integrated Amp/DAC

[IanG-UK]

As I mentioned abough, there are hints for a module with 5 GHz used in the new generation of Devialets. Not confirmed yet. We will see.

I'm confused!

Airport Utility requires either "Auto" or a channel set in both 2.4GHz (I chose Channel 4) and 5GHz (I chose Channel 40).

When I then look in "About This Mac - Wifi" it shows the current network information for DevialetAudio (as set on my SD card in the Devialet) as Channel 40. This is confirmed in iStumbler.

But I can see on the latest Devialet web page that Devialet only cite 2.4GHz as being currently available? Odd!

 

[marcor]

I'm confused!

Airport Utility requires either "Auto" or a channel set in both 2.4GHz (I chose Channel 4) and 5GHz (I chose Channel 40).

When I then look in "About This Mac - Wifi" it shows the current network information for DevialetAudio (as set on my SD card in the Devialet) as Channel 40. This is confirmed in iStumbler.

But I can see on the latest Devialet web page that Devialet only cite 2.4GHz as being currently available? Odd!

I am not sure how airport manage the channels as it broadcast both the frequency under the same name.. I have a router with split networks, one 2.4 and one 5 GHz. The 2 networks are seprated and have different SSID. I can confirm that Devialet doesn't hook up to the 5 but only to the 2.4.

 

[Fischerp]

I'm confused!

Airport Utility requires either "Auto" or a channel set in both 2.4GHz (I chose Channel 4) and 5GHz (I chose Channel 40).

When I then look in "About This Mac - Wifi" it shows the current network information for DevialetAudio (as set on my SD card in the Devialet) as Channel 40. This is confirmed in iStumbler.

But I can see on the latest Devialet web page that Devialet only cite 2.4GHz as being currently available? Odd!

About this Mac - Wifi shows all your settings. It doesn't mean that the Devialet is connected to it on 5GHz, just an available network set on a channel you selected.

 

[IanG-UK]

I am not sure how airport manage the channels as it broadcast both the frequency under the same name.. I have a router with split networks, one 2.4 and one 5 GHz. The 2 networks are seprated and have different SSID. I can confirm that Devialet doesn't hook up to the 5 but only to the 2.4.

Many thanks. I can see that, like you, my networks have different SSID. I think the confusing issue is that the Macbook Pro is claiming to have a Current Network based on 5GHz and an Other Network based on 2.4GHz. Giving the impression that the 5GHz gets some sort of priority.

Anyway, not an issue as signal and noise are similar via 2.4GHz and 5GHz - namely -43dbm and -87dbm.

 

[IanG-UK]

About this Mac - Wifi shows all your settings. It doesn't mean that the Devialet is connected to it on 5GHz, just an available network set on a channel you selected.

Thank you!

 

[IanG-UK]

Just had an email from Devialet:

"The software team responsible for Air just discovered a bug in the buffer management which gets corrupted as time increases. So what you experience at home (no problem during a couple of minutes and increasing problems after) is expected with the current version of Air. This shall be fixed before my venue (visit) to Oxford next week."

So that is good news.

 

[Nightmare]

Thx for the info.

 

[colonel66]

Just had an email from Devialet:

"The software team responsible for Air just discovered a bug in the buffer management which gets corrupted as time increases. So what you experience at home (no problem during a couple of minutes and increasing problems after) is expected with the current version of Air. This shall be fixed before my venue (visit) to Oxford next week."

So that is good news.

thanks for the info and for interacting with deviate

 

[Fischerp]

Just had an email from Devialet:

"The software team responsible for Air just discovered a bug in the buffer management which gets corrupted as time increases. So what you experience at home (no problem during a couple of minutes and increasing problems after) is expected with the current version of Air. This shall be fixed before my venue (visit) to Oxford next week."

So that is good news.

Hmmm, I so want to believe this is going to happen by next week but past experience has said otherwise. C'mon Devialet, restore my faith in you!

 

[IanG-UK]

Hmmm, I so want to believe this is going to happen by next week but past experience has said otherwise. C'mon Devialet, restore my faith in you!

I know that Jon who owns Oxford Audio Consultants (OAC) - one of Devialet's top dealers - is experiencing the same Air problem as many contributors to this forum. And OAC are holding a Devialet day next Wednesday which the Head of R&D of Devialet is attending. So a fix must be developed by then - Devialet cannot run a demonstration day without a working version of Air - so hopefully there will be a general release by then or shortly afterwards. Not clear whether that will be a fix to 2.0 or 6.0.6 or both.

 

[Togil]

So the buffering problem takes place in the computer's memory, not the Devialet's ? The demo will be of the new units which may be unaffected by the problem, which might explain why it wasn't noticed by Devialet before.

 

[IanG-UK]

So the buffering problem takes place in the computer's memory, not the Devialet's ? The demo will be of the new units which may be unaffected by the problem, which might explain why it wasn't noticed by Devialet before.

Someone on this forum may know, for certain, the answer to that. I would have thought that Air 2.0 dictates/modifies a buffering protocol on your computer (presumably why Devialet - I think - prefer your computer to be used exclusively for iTunes or whatever when using Air) and that then feeds through your router and on to the Devialet. Hence why they say ""The software team responsible for Air just discovered a bug ... "

I doubt it is an old unit v new unit issue but you make a very fair point about Devialet not noticing it ... Anyway I am sure Jon at OAC will want the bug fixed for all units - old and new - since many existing customers will be at his shop demonstration on Wednesday.

 

[Nightmare]

And - still - no word about it on the webpage of Devialet

 

[marcor]

So the buffering problem takes place in the computer's memory, not the Devialet's ? The demo will be of the new units which may be unaffected by the problem, which might explain why it wasn't noticed by Devialet before.

Hi,

I thought that was a buffering problem as it was increasing with time. It seems like the buffer memory is getting filled up and the drop occur when there is no space to keep the new data in memory, in some way that force a little purge of memory that get filled again up until the new drop. This is just my speculation based to the behaviour of the Devialet and a general knowledge of the computers. However I will be quite surprised if it is a problem only of the software and not of the firmware.
Great to know they are working on this!

 

[IanG-UK]

And - still - no word about it on the webpage of Devialet

I suspect they have a lot to learn on customer communications. In a very short period of time they have moved from, say, 500 customers for one product in, say, five markets; to perhaps 2,000 customers in 30 markets; and potentially, say, 10,000 customers in those markets with four product offerings - and with this very unusual continuous improvement undertaking.

And if there are ten times as many dissatisfied customers simply through a tenfold increase in the customer base, the presence of forums, facebook and twitter will create the impression that the dissatisfaction is much greater.

As you infer, a simple statement on the webpage would have helped!

 

[Togil]

Someone on this forum may know, for certain, the answer to that. I would have thought that Air 2.0 dictates/modifies a buffering protocol on your computer (presumably why Devialet - I think - prefer your computer to be used exclusively for iTunes or whatever when using Air) and that then feeds through your router and on to the Devialet. Hence why they say ""The software team responsible for Air just discovered a bug ... "

I doubt it is an old unit v new unit issue but you make a very fair point about Devialet not noticing it ... Anyway I am sure Jon at OAC will want the bug fixed for all units - old and new - since many existing customers will be at his shop demonstration on Wednesday.

It would be interesting then if users with larger ram , say 16 Gb have less of a problem than those Mac mini users with a 2 or 4 Gb memory.
Has anyone used other players on the Mac?

 

[Bernie]

the AIR2 RAM usage on my Windows 8 PC is only 8,6 MB, so I have some doubts that it matters if you have 2, 4 or 32 GB of RAM.

 

[marcor]

the AIR2 RAM usage on my Windows 8 PC is only 8,6 MB, so I have some doubts that it matters if you have 2, 4 or 32 GB of RAM.

no it shouldn't matter, you computer ram is not the memory that is getting filled up. It is the buffer memory either the one allocated from Air2 to the streaming either the one on the WIFI card inside the Devialet

 

[Nightmare]

Nothing happened yet And the event in Oxford is on coming wednesday.

Instead of that still silence on Devialet´s homepage concerning the problem. Not any hint. And the update 6.0.6 is still online. That is kind of bad. And there are no answers to users questions any more, also. See the comments of the user Ewkee down on this site.

 

[gatomusik]

Awaiting repairs to Air2, I’ve explored one of the other statements about Air2 on the Devialet site:

“No matter what format or audio player you use, don’t change anything. All you have to do is select your Devialet as your computer’s audio output device and play your music.”

So, I tried Audirvana using Air2. Turning off Audirvana’s “low level playback options” I was able to play through Air2. For some reason, Air2 took over the volume control on Audirvana, bringing questions about bitperfect play to mind. Also, switching Audirvana from 16/44 to higher resolutions froze playback.

With Pure Music, it’s necessary to turn off the hog mode option in audio preferences to make PM play through Air2. Switching between resolutions worked, except for anything above 24/96.

It seems that Air2 is not just playing what the software outputs, and that it interacts with the players’ innards. So much for the “don’t change anything” claim.

Of course, the dropouts still emerge over time. Anyone else out there with experience using alternate players in the computer? It would be lovely if the ostriches at Devialet had a comment.