What cables are you using in your system ?????
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Turntable: The silver litz in the Korf headshell, whatever is inside the Bokrand tonearm, and a 1 m Mogani mini starquad based tonearm cable with Neutrik Rean RCA plugs.
Interconnects: Canare core plus shield (no semi balanced bull) with Neutrik Rean RCA plugs, for the power amps Neutrik XLR in the receiving end (pin 1 and 3 connected).
Speaker cables (4 pairs): 2.5 sqmm OFC terminated with Neutrik Speakon.
Power cables: The ones that came with the gear.
Optical and Ethernet cables: Long enough.
Interconnects: Canare core plus shield (no semi balanced bull) with Neutrik Rean RCA plugs, for the power amps Neutrik XLR in the receiving end (pin 1 and 3 connected).
Speaker cables (4 pairs): 2.5 sqmm OFC terminated with Neutrik Speakon.
Power cables: The ones that came with the gear.
Optical and Ethernet cables: Long enough.
Bruce B
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Dave just wanted to find out the name of your company.Sorry for the delay!
Metallurgy is the prime factor in how a cable will sound, UPOCC silver is the most resolving material with the least side-effects. The Neotech (and my own wire which is made by Neotech) OCC silver/gold alloy sounds nearly the same but has better tone/timbre. One of the only drawbacks to UPOCC silver is the tone is a little thin, the gold alloying element solves that issue. Other cable companies use heavier gauge UPOCC silver to fix it, both Wireworld and Siltech use 17g UPOCC silver in their highest end interconnect cables, which is huge overkill but gives them the tone they are looking for. Other materials have their own issues that are generally much worse vs UPOCC silver... copper is warm and smooths out detail but KS, Jorma, Tara and others do make some really nice copper cables that approach the resolution of UPOCC silver. Many people prefer that warmth and with a system that uses, just for example, big SS amps and Accuton drivers, the warmth compliments and smooths out some of the drivers imperfections, and the drivers are so detailed to begin with that most don't miss the detail the copper cables smooth out. IMO, and for my goals, which is a system that recreates the acoustics of the recording venue and other fine detail, UPOCC silver goes a long way towards accomplishing my goals and suits my preferences, and suits the systems I tend to prefer as well, which are high efficiency speakers with SET amps.
Also, cables make for poor tone controls because there are side-effects to warmth or brightness... I believe the preamp is the best place to fine tune things to your preferences, using vacuum tubes of course...Cables should be as clear, resolving and neutral as possible for best overall results.
Dave owns ZenWave, zenwave audio.com
Great guy.....
ZenWave is really nice!
I've been using Veritas Cables which is a new small brand I discovered not long ago, they also use UPOCC wiring and it sounds great. Audio Art is another favorite and some, but not all, of their lineup uses UPOCC wiring. So maybe I just love the UPOCC sound in general.
I've been using Veritas Cables which is a new small brand I discovered not long ago, they also use UPOCC wiring and it sounds great. Audio Art is another favorite and some, but not all, of their lineup uses UPOCC wiring. So maybe I just love the UPOCC sound in general.
Zensati does use UPOCC wire but the prices for their cables are ridiculously high so I would stay away from them and there's something even better than the round OCC that everyone else is using and that's rectangular OCC that is made by Neotech.
For speaker and power cables, yes because you can achieve better electrical characteristics with the Neotech ribbon wire... lower inductance without excessive capacitance. For ICs, the ribbon wire can be very low capacitance with the right geo, but there's 2 issues. First, noise rejection is minimal. Not a big deal in many home environments, but not ideal either. Second, the image size is larger and somewhat diffuse. Many enjoy this is it sounds closer to live to them, but it is adding a bit of it's own character. This is even more pronounced with foil type cables, they can make for larger-than-life images that run together in the soundstage. Vocals coming from giants!
Round wire can achieve superior noise rejection, with the right geo you can get excellent electrical characteristics, but this is not trivial and not intuitive to accomplish. Round wire also has no effect on imaging and presents a more focused image when the recording calls for it, or if it is a live recording, you can hear a larger and more "live" image, so the cable stays out of the way in that regards moreso than ribbon wire.You've been self-promoting very aggressively lately. Since we both offer free demos, I'd encourage comparisons for those interested.
I’m sorry, who are you? The question is, what cables are you using in your system. And I answered the question. and yes, I’ll take the Pepsi challenge against your product any day. Do you have dealers? The Cable Company can facilitate this demonstration for anyone interested in trying Foundation XL
It's in my signature. Not sure why the nasty reply? Complete with "laugh" emoji? Really? I don't think I said anything offensive at all. People should indeed compare gear at home in their own system whenever possible.
Also, you are required to have your industry affiliation in your signature according the the TOU of this site.
Just read your profile. Never heard of Zen wave audio. Are you new? Do you have a website?
Wow, another "laugh" emoji in response? What have I done to make you so angry?! I've been in business for over 10 years. I just don't participate in the high-end audio circus. I'm a small business, about 70% of my orders are from repeat customers and the rest word of mouth. I have no aspirations to be a big business.
I’m sorry, who are you? The question is, what cables are you using in your system. And I answered the question. and yes, I’ll take the Pepsi challenge against your product any day. Do you have dealers? The Cable Company can facilitate this demonstration for anyone interested. I mean, assuming Dave has dealers
Ted who are you to be so demeaning to the forum members here?
DaveC makes some tremendous cables - some of the best in the industry. He’s proven it numerous times. Since you’ve never heard of them, who are you to judge them so negatively!
Ted you’re digging your own grave!
Well the engineers at Neotech really did a good job designing the Amazon and the Sahara which is their top of the line rectangular OCC cable line.For speaker and power cables, yes because you can achieve better electrical characteristics with the Neotech ribbon wire... lower inductance without excessive capacitance. For ICs, the ribbon wire can be very low capacitance with the right geo, but there's 2 issues. First, noise rejection is minimal. Not a big deal in many home environments, but not ideal either. Second, the image size is larger and somewhat diffuse. Many enjoy this is it sounds closer to live to them, but it is adding a bit of it's own character. This is even more pronounced with foil type cables, they can make for larger-than-life images that run together in the soundstage. Vocals coming from giants!
You've been self-promoting very aggressively lately. Since we both offer free demos, I'd encourage comparisons for those interested.
you need to relax imoI’m sorry, who are you? The question is, what cables are you using in your system. And I answered the question. and yes, I’ll take the Pepsi challenge against your product any day. Do you have dealers? The Cable Company can facilitate this demonstration for anyone interested in trying Foundation XL
Ted Dennehy lll,
I respect your company synergy research you guys make some good stuff but you're using 6N silver which can be edgy and bright and it will be nowhere near as good as OCC single crystal silver which is 7n pure and each crystal is 125 m long and the new rectangular OCC single crystal silver is even better than the round I've talked to your company and you guys haven't even thought about trying the rectangular OCC copper and silver.
I respect your company synergy research you guys make some good stuff but you're using 6N silver which can be edgy and bright and it will be nowhere near as good as OCC single crystal silver which is 7n pure and each crystal is 125 m long and the new rectangular OCC single crystal silver is even better than the round I've talked to your company and you guys haven't even thought about trying the rectangular OCC copper and silver.
lay off the bottle, its not good for you, you are making a complete *** out of yourself
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