What are the Top Horn Speakers in the World Today? Vox Olympian vs Avantgarde Trio vs ???
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More sublime images of the greatest room I have ever encountered thank you very much. The darkest of the three is superb and bravo once more.
Kindest regards,G.
Kindest regards,G.
I love the fact the Klangfilm speaker used to belong to Florian (Kraftwerk)... The work that has gone into this show is not to be underestimated. Convincing the Serpentine board + innumerable health & safety people (let alone insurance companies) that 1920's 30's amps and Tungar supplies are perfectly fine next to works of art has been just some of the fun.
The frame for the 16A is another story (There is no surviving example of one to my knowledge, it had to be drawn up and fabricated from a few images)
Hats off to Lawrence and Peter - They are offering a non audiophile audience a valuable and potentially memorable experience. Perhaps sound and audio design may, just may, start to be viewed as art by those outside of the bubble?
The frame for the 16A is another story (There is no surviving example of one to my knowledge, it had to be drawn up and fabricated from a few images)
Hats off to Lawrence and Peter - They are offering a non audiophile audience a valuable and potentially memorable experience. Perhaps sound and audio design may, just may, start to be viewed as art by those outside of the bubble?
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...according to this morning's NYT Arts Section (with photos!), the speaker was salvaged from a location in Wales by a fella named Laurence Passera. He says the speaker is thought to be the one that played Elvis to a young Tom Jones for the first time.
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Yes Lawrence has been collecting for a great number of years - His WE system was set up in East London for listening sessions by appointment see @d_s_p.London.
https://www.instagram.com/d_s_p.london/#
The Tom Jones connection is plausible, the 16A came out of T.J's then local cinema a fair few years ago now.Love this image
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Hello Caesar, you’d need to elaborate on your question a bit more precisely, because there are simply too many differences between the Ultimate III and our Masterpiece Reference Edition. What unites both is that they’re both horn loudspeakers, and that’s pretty much it. The drivers, number of ways, crossover concept (DSP and passive in the version) are completely different. Weight, dimensions, bass solution—simply everything is different.
I’d have to go into extreme detail to list all the things that set them apart.
Best regards, Swen
An open minded Alexx owner writes “I ran my Alexx’s with Lamm M1.2 to great satisfaction. Then MicroSeiki became available and I fell into a vortex of a full line upgrade culminating in TAD’s (TSM-1). Alexx are relegated to my closet for now. I am a horder of sorts. I did run both speakers comparatively for a short while. They are not in the same league.”
As always, a lot of gems on video threads that some owners might be missing because they never visit video threads. Hence posting here in the hope they might be visiting horn threads looking at potential upgrade.
Post in thread 'Orchestral Music System Videos - Symphonic or Tone Poems, etc.'
https://www.whatsbestforum.com/thre...ymphonic-or-tone-poems-etc.41411/post-1088099
I think your living room is big enough, why not this?
ON2 system from NNNN mutlicell koax driver , 18" midbass and devore16 sub
I have experienced this also . Certainly not all the time but a number of times and it still occurs.
I know EXACTLY what you describe when you say it seems so real you wonder where it came from, or if there is someone in the house.
I have been so in the moment and totally captivated in the music while someone else actually IS the house and have asked “what was that” or “pardon, did you say something” or “what was that!’
Most often it occurs from vocals or a voice dialogue in a song, but sometimes from a percussion thwack or pluck of a stringed instrument.
It is Indeed spooky and kind of unnerving for a moment.
I also have a high quality multi channel system (5.6.4) all horns, and when listening to well mixed ATMOS audio it happens even more regularly. A sound appears from above or behind, your heart almost skips a beat for 1/2 a second.
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My subs perform and act like Devor 23
Soon I’ll test multisubs with Devor 40s
Soon I’ll test multisubs with Devor 40s
No disrespect intended, but could this be because you are so familiar with the tracks you play you subconsciously already know what line or musical part is coming next?I personally would never allege this far. I would never claim that "suspension of disbelief is bypassed entirely," which means you completely, 100%, genuinely and authentically, literally believe you're in Walt Disney Concert Hall.
But then I don't do hallucinogenic drugs.
Also as a genuine general question as music has a different meaning and effect for everyone, does it occur often when listening to music that you can be so moved by a piece, or a vocal, or even a lyric that you not only get shivers up the spine or all over the body, but become emotionally moved to the point of tears or laugh out loud in amazement?
I’m not talking about “literally believe you’re in Walt Disney Hall’ more ,so in the zone and completely engrossed in the musical moment.
Pink Floyd, ‘Another brick in the wall’?I have even had imagery helicopters flying outside my 26 floor balcony ! And i was sober !
Yello. ‘The race’ is another good one
Do it!
Have a read on DBA, either Geddes or Welti, also Trinnov wave forming. Even Duke’s swarm.
I’ve done lots of experimenting and measuring in this space.
Currently use 2 subs front wall in between mains, two rear behind listening position roughly in line with the front subs, the addition of two rear subs made for a huge improvement. Measured and perceived. An almost(+/- 3dB) in room flat below 100hZ response. Since then have added an extra 2 subs, one in front corner and one 2/3 into the room pointing at listening position which has helped fill in a couple of small dips I had. So 6 in total, possibly overkill as 4 subs probably got me 90% of the way, extra 2 was just to achieve an even flatter in room response , not extra output.
Used room measurement, testing multiple positions (18) and treatment firstly then tidied up phase delay EQ etc with DSP.
Sounds clean, tight, balanced and no way of locating sub positions. All LF appears to emanate from front Left and right speakers. An. extra benefit was opening up and expanding the sound stage.
In room subs only response prior to EQ.
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Yes, I caught this comment. It reminds me of my own experience with Lamm M1.1 and Magico, also started after I got the same Micro Seiki. It sounded great, but the more sensitive corner horns allowed for the Lamm SET ML2 and that was it. It all came together.
Bill’s dream speakers were focal grande utopia till they became pnoe, byrdparis was Magico till he went horns, tang was considering Zellaton statement before he bought Cessaro, audioquattr went from Magico to Cessaro, Tima Wilson to JBL, sbnx vivid to trios, Thundersnow Marten to planars and adding horns, the French Euronor guy was Apogee before.
However, it is only Jacob Helibrunn moving to trios from WAMM, to be someday followed by Ron Resnick, which will make some people take notice
As Thanos said to high powered solid state speaker users, it is inevitable
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There are others too. Jeffrey225 from PBN to Hartsfields and a few I can’t remember. What did Ralph have before his Classic Audio?
Across my audio history, the absolutely best move I've made. You incentivized me to look more broadly. Peter's switch inspired me. David showed me what was possible.
Mods, please make sticky. Ron and others can copy it or just point to link in future.
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