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What are the Top Horn Speakers in the World Today? Vox Olympian vs Avantgarde Trio vs ???
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I dont often agree with Bonzo , but i think the Sashas are indeed the Wilson speaker to buy .
Integration/ Coherance is lacking with Bigger wilsons .
@ Amir Audiophiles love to fiddle all day with gear so in that way the big wilsons could indeed be the better choice .
I holland we say : Fiddling Keeps you busy... of the street ""
Go for RP Lyra , no Fiddling needed cheaper then the XVX s and much better over all even with a perfectly adjusted XVX ( WAMM )
Integration/ Coherance is lacking with Bigger wilsons .
@ Amir Audiophiles love to fiddle all day with gear so in that way the big wilsons could indeed be the better choice .
I holland we say : Fiddling Keeps you busy... of the street ""
Go for RP Lyra , no Fiddling needed cheaper then the XVX s and much better over all even with a perfectly adjusted XVX ( WAMM )
I welcome all of the different opinions. We are all lucky that there are so many choices and different approaches. If we look long enough, we will find a combination with which to be happy. Bonzo keeps looking, but it seems his mind is made up. He too is enjoying his take on the hobby. I like his music selections.
You prefer sasha 2 to alexandria x2s2 it means Dave Wilson was very stupid because his lower model sound better than higher model.
When you do not have a playback in your home it means you never tryed to optimise a system.
Big speakers room intraction is very different to small speakers room interaction.
Happens with other models too. But I guess there is a dfferent between those who understand nuances and those who don't, without being taken in each time or bigger and/or later and/or more expensive, so the better.
Dear Peter,
I had many conversations with Iranian audiophiles and actually not all but some of audiophiles understand the importance of emotional sound of analog/tube/horns but the problem is in real world our access to good horns (at all price ranges) is limited (you can not buy bionore in this market and many modern horns are not good), our access to good turntable is limited (most modern turntables are not good), working with tubes and turntables is not easy for all audiophiles so if we find good digital/solidstate/cone systems it is more ok for audiophiles.
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I had these speakers in my home and I have enough experience with smaller models of wilsons.
Judging systems is not easy it is very very hard.
Most dynamic and nuances could he hidden by wrong speaker position and bad rooms.
When you think soulution pre amplifier is good I really wonder. When you say lower models of Wilsons are better I really wonder. When you say TAD R1 is not dynamic I really wonder.
Yes I like David audio thinking, I respect Romy and his audio thinking but I have my own experience.
You should setup your own system and invite audiophiles to see your results.
For me the best wilson,plays completely homogeneously; has no 100 Hz kick bass hump, which is incredibly annoying over time. The drivers are positioned close together, creating a stunning 3D image. It plays cleanly down to 35 Hz in a normal living room. Who needs more add add a JL audio 12"subwoofer and be happy until the end of time.
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If he puts his money where his mouth is i believe him
I actually do not think that matters. A lot of things have to lineup for someone to invest in a big system, including space in London. It’s easy to criticize others. He’s enjoying the hobby differently and sharing his experience here with the rest of us. I like his videos and the exposure to some of these unknown systems. It’s also refreshing because it is not conventional mainstream high-end.
Yes, I completely understand your approach Amir. I appreciate the contrasts and differences. There is also what one likes in his personal life and what is available to sell to the public in the market as a business. I agree with you about turntables. There are some exceptions I think, but it’s very difficult to beat some of the old classics as long as you can get them serviced.
By the way, you make an excellent point about the knowledge and experience gained by setting up your own system and striving for improvements. It is an excellent way to learn.
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But peter ,
Buying your own gear and making it
work to your liking is something completely different .
Buying your own gear and making it
work to your liking is something completely different .
Bonzo, these brands are good and can sound excellent. If well set up with associated gear and in the right room by someone who knows what he’s doing. I happen to agree with you that there are better alternatives for more natural sound, but there are also commercial interests and what is available to buy and sell. These may factor in the decision process.
Of course it is. No one would disagree with that. The point is Bonzo is enjoying an aspect to the hobby, which is exploring different gear meeting people and discovering what he likes and sharing it with others. His approach is very difficult to criticize. Of course he does not have one of those systems in his apartment in London. We all have our reasons for doing what we do.
That may be true, but that doesn’t mean it’s not possible. I heard a really good karma system. I also did like the TAD CR1 with Lloyd Walker’s turntable at RMAF 2010. It sounded great in a small room and extremely dynamic.
I think you and I share a preference for a different sound, which sounds better to us,but that does not mean these speakers can’t sound “good” and satisfy a lot of people there’s no denying that some people love these speakers.
Steve keeps talking about loud with horns, as a good thing. I don't think a hons are supposed to sound loud. That sounds like distortion. They are supposed to sound dynamic and real. They are supposed to present detail in a way??? Not sure how to finish that line.
Wow a guy named “ Not Al” sent me this, saying “your recent videos inspired me to dig out some classical and make a video” Mozart’s 21st on Martin Bastin plinth TD124, Denom 103 on Alfred Borland arm, audio note empress 2a3, audio detail 101d preamp, hORNS fp15
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