Tobian Soundsystems release the new 18FH Horn Speaker

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the three most important improvements for optimized sound guide are safe, voice coil, phase plug and the diaphram

So you changed all those from the original design? Did that get you up to 20k? I haven’t seen anyone get it above 16-18k yet.
 
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So you changed all those from the original design? Did that get you up to 20k? I haven’t seen anyone get it above 16-18k yet.
if you had informed yourself then you would know that these are manufacturer specifications

would have been nice if you had asked me at what efficiency the 20K are achieved
 
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Don’t worry - I was attempting to be polite and take some interest. Good luck with your venture.
 

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if you had informed yourself then you would know that these are manufacturer specifications

would have been nice if you had asked me at what efficiency the 20K are achieved
I’d like to ask that question…..at what efficiency is the 20K achieved
 

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Don’t worry - I was attempting to be polite and take some interest. Good luck with your venture.
yes sure that I have also taken it that way I did not mean to be rude, I also see so 16K-18K are a very very good value it needs not more than that ... and if we measure our hearing then we do not even need that
 

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I’d like to ask that question…..at what efficiency is the 20K achieved
nice question fantastic, up to 17.5K the frequency response is very nice and as it should be around 100db.
between 17.5 and 20k the efficiency is 99db at 17.6k and 92db at 20k
 
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of course if you "shelve the driver to death" you might get there,
nice question fantastic, up to 17.5K the frequency response is very nice and as it should be around 100db.
between 17.5 and 20k the efficiency is 99db at 17.6k and 92db at 20k

What sensitivity is the system at 20hz on the other end?
 

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Audiophile Bill

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87db @ 20Hz and 91db @ 30Hz and 99.4db 77Hz

Morning Gunter. Is this anechoic measurement? If so what is the frequency response +/- 3dB and +/- 6dB?

Best.
 

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Morning Gunter. Is this anechoic measurement? If so what is the frequency response +/- 3dB and +/- 6dB?

Best.
However, this sounds hard like a normal high-end speaker with a multi-way crossover or a multi-way horn with a hi-fi speaker as a model.

Have you listened to the videos of the 18FH ?
 

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Would be nice to compare vs the best version of the Aries Cerat Aurora.......:)

Matt
 

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However, this sounds hard like a normal high-end speaker with a multi-way crossover or a multi-way horn with a hi-fi speaker as a model.

Have you listened to the videos of the 18FH ?

Hi Gunter,

Yes I have heard several videos of the 18FH.

Best.
 

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Would be nice to compare vs the best version of the Aries Cerat Aurora.......:)

Matt
Hi Matt,
sorry for my late response yesterday there was too much going on at TS. Yes you could certainly do that, the 18FH is relatively new only a few pairs have been delivered so far and none in the USA yet until now.
I would invite you very warmly, you will see it is worth it. A real two-way horn plays quite differently than you would expect.
The 18FH plays very open, deep sound stage fully transparent with deep timbres and irrepressibly powerful....simply live

Like an oversized fullrage chassis totally homogeneous no tone too much or too little everything in the right place... that's the sound without components in the signal path.

We also have a service from Zurich, Basel and Milan airports.

Best greetings
Günter
 
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Hi Gunter,

Yes I have heard several videos of the 18FH.

Best.
Hi Bill
sorry for my late response yesterday there was too much going on at TS. nice that you have heard the videos. In the videos you can already hear a part of what distinguishes the 18FH. there is something special a kind of magic that the 18FH has, completely homogeneous like a full range chassis or coaxial system but just even more real all tones on the right place.
when the 18FH is set up correctly, it disappears behind the sound stage and a huge sound stage presents itself openly musically the 18FH is completely submerged as if it were live

Best Günter
 

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As an expert, how would you build a horn?

Best Günter

This has been documented in pages and pages on the Nordic forum over many years. Even with translate easy to read
 

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This speaker is clearly posisioned for the extreme high end luxury market. But USD 175.000,- for a pair? I do not doubt that they sound very good, but is it at all possible to explain why they are this expensive?
 

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