TAD owners: speaker setup

[Eli08]

True. How many sales they may have lost due to this at showrooms is hard to say. But I guess there is a reason behind. What you mention may very well be one of them.

 

[ozy]

~150 hours later.......oh my oh my.....where have you been hiding tads?
A couple of observations-the be cst will take a lot more hours to relax..... The bass drivers finally are coming out of their shells ...
These speakers require lots of power, imo. No 20w set ought to apply....
Still waiting for the Siltech triple crown I/cs.....
Main differences between the ref1and the focal Stella- the amazing clarity and dynamics in the highs and mids in the ref1, and the punchier less bloated bass notes.

 

[Eli08]

Hi Ozy, good to hear you like what you are listening. 150 hours is really nothing. Wait for 500 hours and you will see. <bass is incredible. Goes well bellow but extremely defined. And the CST will take forever and a half to get there but the transparency and the level of detail has no equal that I've heard. Is a look through... Dynamics are just crazy. And the nice is that on slow passages the delicacy is similar to that of a monitor. You have great fun ahead! Re the TC, they most have a bunch of orders. Being waiting for my 1 meter from DACs to preamp for 3 weeks now.

 

[ozy]

Thanks Eli, that's good to hear and know... looking forward to the audio bliss ahead....
as for the TC ,heard that siltech has some issues getting the unique connectors for their xlr from the distributor.....not a problem ,but rather a delay....

 

[Eli08]

Hi Ozy. How are things evolving with speakers?

The problems should be solved regarding the TC. Just got my 1m xor for dacs to preamp last week.

Looking forward to hear your impressions.

Best

 

[ozy]

Hi Eli, have not received my TC yet... Any day now.....
Btw, have you /anyone. heard your ref1 with the following----
Accuphase amps(classA)
Dartzeel 450
Boulder 2150
Me curious.........

 

[Eli08]

No I haven't. All should be good. I wanted to try de 2150 before going for the M600, but it was very hard to get them in house for a try or even listen to them together. Since the M600 sounded as good as they did, decided to go with then. Did hear the 2050 with Magicos. Were good but frankly I preferred the all TAD.

 

[Amir]

No I haven't. All should be good. I wanted to try de 2150 before going for the M600, but it was very hard to get them in house for a try or even listen to them together. Since the M600 sounded as good as they did, decided to go with then. Did hear the 2050 with Magicos. Were good but frankly I preferred the all TAD.

I think D600 is very very good in comparison,
both dCS vivaldi and Esoteric are good but i doubt dCS or Esoteric beat D600 easily. TAD D600 shines because D600 has analoge sound with good dynamic/image and resolution. Both esoteric and dCS vivaldi does not sound analog.

I think/guess Only wadax transport/dac ($300k) goes ahead.

siltech is very very good but I hear the magical diamond midrange of TAD R1 only by Skogrand Stravinsky

 

[engadin]

An old thread …

your recommendations for placement and toe in for the ME1?

 

[Amir]

An old thread …

your recommendations for placement and toe in for the ME1?

speaker placement has no rule, forget what you read in manuals or cardas golden ratio speaker placement or any triangle speaker setup. all are useless.
you should try and try and try and find a place to have best bass/dynamics and open midrange.
finding best soundstage is not important and you should care about maximum dynamics.

I think TAD ME1 is good for rooms smaller than 40 square meter and side wall can help to have enough bass .

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[Amir]

Hi Murray,

I have not tried the D600.Is actually the only piece of TAD reference series that I haven't tried in my house. Can't say how it compares to the Grandioso. I have my opinion of course but it is not based on anything objective so worth very little. Interestingly, the TAD head for Europe was in my house a few weeks back and he told me the best selling of all the hardware of TAD was the D600, and it was quite popular specially in Japan. On paper the multi box solutions from Esoteric Grandioso or Vivaldi seem better, but paper and specifications many times means nothing to how it sounds, son can't give an opinion.

Regarding Siltech, I have tried and used several ranges within the Royal Signature Series. From a Queen Interconnect, to an Emperor II speaker cables, Double Crown Interconnects and TC speaker cables and interconnects. Also DC power cables and DC Octopus power bar. They all sound great with Ref series. My opinion is that sweet spot is probably Emperor (price/performance). Of course DC and TC are better, and you can easily hear it in this system, TC being a revelation, but with the Emperor, if you don't listen to anything above you will never imagine you are missing anything. Queen is also good but only for preamp to amp connection. From DAC to preamp, where signal is more delicate it is better to be Empress or above.

It's hard to say but if I had to recommend a combination not to max performance (which would be al TC) but max cost/benefit I would say from DAC to preamp highest you can afford (TC or DC), from preamp to amp (queen or Empress, the later better if possible) and speaker Emperor II. That will be excellent and again you would not be able to see what it is that you are missing if you don't hear higher combinations. (of course you are; but you are anyway regardless of how high you go...).

TAD C600 / M600 aro class 2 (double isolated) so there is no path to earth connection, connecting esoteric class 1 to TAD system decrease dynamics .
All currents will go through esoteric