given the price discrepancy sounds like the T&A did a impressive job, I guess?
I disagree with that, since I spent quite some time with both before you came in, and you barely heard the T+A (correct me if I am wrong but you left in about two mins when we put it back in, you did spend some time with the Lampi, beer and pizza though). The t+a was better on electronic bass, but when playing symphonies it was no match on the separation and orchestral dynamics to the Lampi with the 242
IMHO, there was nothing in the comparison between the GG and T&A that was "no contest".
I went into the demo fully expecting the T&A to be trounced on where the GG is strongest and was pleasantly surprised to find in the areas that T&A was behind on, it was not that far behind
But hey, we all hear things differently, and as someone who needs a lot of dynamics on flatly recorded material, from what I've heard on both dac's through the SGM, and the SGM in two locations, the SGM/T&A fits my listening biases and library
Hi Bonzo,
Did you and Bill get the chance to use different modulators to establish a preference? What I found so far is that the various modulators sound different with different source resolution. However, I settled on the DSD7-256fs as a good fit and forget modulator in my system after finding the ADMS7 to be too spacious and losing attack/density.
The GG with KR242 must be sounding mighty fine to beat the DAC8. Would have liked to have been there.
Blue58
Yes, the DSD only version is essentially made for SGM or anything else capable of delivering up to 512 (chipless engine). Of course it does DSD54/128 and 256 as well....so at those rates you open up more front end options.Wisnon
One, would I use this dac only after SGM does it's thing at 512/HQ (ie all the time LOL)
How does this dac fit into the Lampi Grand Scheme Of Things
Ie compared to GG, B7, Lite etc?
Just to be clear...were you comparing a GG at 256 with the Dac8 at 512? if so, is that a totally valid comparison?I listened just fine Ked but feel free to contend that I didn't
We heard your Saint Saens piece on both dac's
We disagree on the difference in quality of playback between the two and their closeness in ultimate reckoning
I find it endlessly fascinating that these demos always have to have an absolutist outcome
I loved the GG and in tone/density/fleshed out terms it beat the T&A
But not by much
Otoh I felt the T&A had the edge on noise floor, dynamics and verve/excitement
I'm planning on a return engagement with both, and I'll spend a longer period a.b'g the two dacs
But I remain of the opinion that anyone with a collection that stretches beyond acoustic instruments into dance, electronic, dub, progressive, fusion etc would be superbly served by the SGM/T&A and it's ghostly quiet, superbly dynamic sound
If you restrict yourself to voice, classical, small scale jazz, the GG may well be the ticket
Just to be clear...were you comparing a GG at 256 with the Dac8 at 512? if so, is that a totally valid comparison?
I'm afraid Ked is incorrect
He omits to mention we listened to Saint Saens through both dacs and the GG with two sets of tubes
He's also incorrect in saying I had a bias towards the T&A. In fact I came to the demo with over a year of Bill's positives for his GG embedded in my head and a genuine desire to really prefer the GG
But the demo just didn't work out that way
I will agree with Ked that I need to spend more time with both
But I had enough time to make reasonable opinions
Wisnon
I agree the comparison was not totally fair
Bill may be upgrading GG to 512 and then a more level playing field
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