Another nice report, Ron. It's interesting that he went 'passive' in the vibration control. One less thing to plug in, but he is adding the vacuum hold down system, so there will be the pump.
SAT XD-1 Turntable Debut at The Audio Salon
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Passive beats active in that it’s never reacting. It just “is”. The Minus K is a particularly ingenious and effective device. It’s basically leaf springs in pre-bending mode.easily adjustable and super stable...
I always thought that active devices were just more blinking lights on the audiophile holodeck, and that well implemented passive solutions are sufficient.
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Did you rap on the plinth/table with the system on and a stylus on a record?
The demo SAT turntable is not a final product. It is not even a final prototype, may be considered as a concept map.
As Marc said the titanium inner tube tonearm is not ready, the suction is not in place. The sound will very different in the final product. The titanium inner tube with Ti cartridge headshell will made the sound much brighter than the other SAT arms.
Suction will reduce vibration on disc surface, further enhancing resolution. It will be interesting to listen to the final sound. But when one is charging this amount of money for a turntable and the final sound is not ready for audition, it really takes a lot of faith on Marc to place an order.
As Marc said the titanium inner tube tonearm is not ready, the suction is not in place. The sound will very different in the final product. The titanium inner tube with Ti cartridge headshell will made the sound much brighter than the other SAT arms.
Suction will reduce vibration on disc surface, further enhancing resolution. It will be interesting to listen to the final sound. But when one is charging this amount of money for a turntable and the final sound is not ready for audition, it really takes a lot of faith on Marc to place an order.
Ron, interesting report, but I'm not getting any idea on musicality from yr mini review. I believe Mike Fremer said the original GP Monaco DD tt had detail and resolution, yet it didn't charm him. I've heard a few digital front ends recently that were uber resolving yet would be hard for me to live with l/t.
How was the SAT tt on the musical/emotional connection stakes, versus AF0?
Put it this way, I'd have an absolutely burnt in impression of the AF0 from a few wks earlier that would be dead simple to compare the SAT tt against.
Thanks for that information.
I had not read a reference to the demo of a prototype in Ron's report. Maybe I missed it. TLI, I'm guessing you were at one of the sessions. Could there be two different versions of the table as there will be different versions of the tonearm, one especially for the table, one not. Was there any discussion of release dates for any of these? Since the SAT table is hand built by MGomez, perhaps it will truly be a bespoke product.
If this is not a finished prototype, what was then the purpose of this presentation ?
Pre-orders. The AF0 was not the production model either.
pre-orders will dictate whether the project will go ahead and what the financial palatable price will be.
So you mean all we have to do to stop the insane spiralling escalation of pricing of the very top end is to just stop ordering them and wait for sanity to prevail.
I am doing my part. I am not ordering the SAT or the AF0.
A manufacturer of kit this expensive has to scope out whether there is is a market, how many he can manufacturer to make it viable and what price.
We have see a few very expensive turntables never get to production. Goldmund and the Av Design Haus’ Dereneville VPM 2010-1 to name two. Even the Basis Audio Work of Art, did that ever get into real production?
I am doing my part. I am not ordering the SAT or the AF0.
A manufacturer of kit this expensive has to scope out whether there is is a market, how many he can manufacturer to make it viable and what price.
We have see a few very expensive turntables never get to production. Goldmund and the Av Design Haus’ Dereneville VPM 2010-1 to name two. Even the Basis Audio Work of Art, did that ever get into real production?
We heard the basis work of art at the Italian distributor. What level of finished prototype it was I am not sure. You can do a find for basis
http://zero-distortion.org/the-italian-over-the-top-road-trip/
I am doing my part. I am not ordering the SAT or the AF0.
A manufacturer of kit this expensive has to scope out whether there is is a market, how many he can manufacturer to make it viable and what price.
We have see a few very expensive turntables never get to production. Goldmund and the Av Design Haus’ Dereneville VPM 2010-1 to name two. Even the Basis Audio Work of Art, did that ever get into real production?
I was going to go for comedy... but the salient truth is for me (and this is a serious but also modest question) does anyone really need a better turntable than say the AS2000.
I don't think people need a better TT than a brinkmann balance, except they can have different, in case they have a harem, like an EMT 927 or a thorens reference to play specific type of music. I think people get too caught up trying to find one very good table, while each table in reality is a compromise, so they are better off spreading the budget to get a harem where each table excels at something.
The EMT and thorens reference will not be my first choice for a one only table, but they will be the top choice for table 2 and 3 (providing I had the money)
The EMT and thorens reference will not be my first choice for a one only table, but they will be the top choice for table 2 and 3 (providing I had the money)
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